[Valigator]

I get exactly what your saying Lilred, but I personally dont think that the choices are that extreme...we dont have to say or preach we are a democracy with the ability to say what we want as an example but then on the other hand blow some distant part of the world up because it threatens us....I think we should learn and analyze from the world around us...I read the newspapers from all over the world almost everyday, its amazing how crime and punishment can vary from everywhere.....I read alot about sex crimes in other parts of the world and how these societies are grappling with it.....I am thinking Jesus people...form a think tank and research what works and what doesnt by the countries who are dealing with it, I liken the US looking at Great Britian and the influx of the Muslims and how it has effected their society, or France which have huge numbers of Muslims because they were so open with their immigration laws....we as United States Citizens should have the research and forethought to nip this crap in the bud, because of what the Muslim population has done to these countries, I have this saying and I think it applies to most things in life "Liars can figure, but figures dont lie" we are not in a perfect world we need to quit making policies as if we were...