California Police

[Hawkeye6]

Hindsight sure is 20/20, isn't it?

And keeping a situation in perspective gives you 20/15. You obviously are operating in a 20/200 world where you see what you want to see. Your attitude makes it clear that perhaps the Brits have it right and not all cops should have guns. If you cannot see or will not admit that it is patently ridiculous to send three cops and a helicopter to settle a clearly non-dangerous playground altercation among 11 y/o's that one old maid schoolteacher would have handled when I was a child, then you lack the perspective and judgment to wear a badge. Get it through your head, TBO. Kops are not always right. And the more they try to separate themselves from the society that they patrol by visual and attitudinal intimidation attempts the worse they will make the situationfor themselves.

[TheeBadOne]

Originally posted by Hawkeye6
Hindsight sure is 20/20, isn't it?

And keeping a situation in perspective gives you 20/15. You obviously are operating in a 20/200 world where you see what you want to see. Your attitude makes it clear that perhaps the Brits have it right and not all cops should have guns. If you cannot see or will not admit that it is patently ridiculous to send three cops and a helicopter (and you know a Police helicopter was dispatched to the call how?) to settle a clearly non-dangerous playground altercation ("throwing a 2-pound rock at 8-year-old Elijah Vang, cutting his forehead after he pelted her with a water balloon in April. The gash required Elijah to receive stitches." Also, can you please tell me how the call came out, you know, when it was actually occurring in real time?) )
among 11 y/o's that one old maid schoolteacher would have handled when I was a child (so you remember someone getting brained with a two pound rock?) , then you lack the perspective and judgment to wear a badge. Get it through your head, TBO. Kops (don't hold back, ad hominem and all, tell us how you really feel about "Cops") are not always right. And the more they try to separate themselves from the society that they patrol by visual and attitudinal intimidation attempts the worse they will make the situationfor themselves. (good old "US & Them" rears it's head, by your hand)

[fabsroman]

TBO,

You have to admit that a lot of LEO's and entire police departments for that matter distance themselves from the public at large.

Then again, I guess that kind of happens in most places. People generally become friends with the people they work with. It is kind of tough in this situation.

As far as getting hit with a 2 lb. rock, probably worse happened to me in grade school. Hell, my brother once used an aeresol can in high school as a flame thrower and the police didn't get called. Then again, he didn't set anybody on fire either.

Quite honestly, I don't think 911 should have been called whatsoever in this matter. Even wasting one officer's time was too much. I put the first blame on the school system, next on the 911 operator, and last on the LEO's for actually charging this girl.

Oh well, that is just my opinion. My bigger worry with Law Enforcement is 5 miles down the street from me where they confiscated this guys 41 gun collection and haven't given it back yet. I might have to look at that file once everything is said and done.

As an aside, what really kills me is that more officers were killed in auto accidents over the last 10 years than with firearms, but nobody is enforcing vehicle laws very strictly.

[TheeBadOne]

Originally posted by fabsroman
TBO,

You have to admit that a lot of LEO's and entire police departments for that matter distance themselves from the public at large.

This is another: "Yeah, but what about him!" Posts.
Really, look at it. I point out a few things, and some are acknowledged, followed with a "Yeah, but.." post that points a generalizing finger at "The Police".
I hate to be the one to break it, but "The Police" are made up of your friends, neighbors, family...... in other words, a slice of America. "The Police" are citizens too, and share many of the same likes, dislikes, concerns, passions, and fears as everyone here.

TBO

[fabsroman]

Agreed. I have several friends that are officers, but I will also say that they seem to have changed once they went through the academy. Some more so than others, and some have changed back to something closer to their previous self after being on the force for years.