World War III

[tooldummy]

Good for you Val!!!!
I wish more citizens had the nerve to stand up and speak their minds to immigrants that come to this country for a better life and then b***h about how bad it is and the supposed injustices imposed on them. AMERICAN men fought that man and his army to give him the freedom he is now over here enjoying. He and his croanies fought tooth and nail against AMERICAN GI's. I wonder if Hitler would have stood for him questioning his policies?
It's time AMERICANS take a stand, before it's too late. I'm sick and tired of AMERICANS catering to foreigners that come to this country. Why should AMERICANS have to learn a second or third language? Why should AMERICANS pay for health care for illigal immigrants, when we can't afford to go to the doctors ourselves? Why should AMERICANS fight and die for other countries, and then listen to immigrants b***h about our leaders? What gives them the right? I'd like nothing better than to load them all up in a leaky boat and send them back where they came from!

[myEspringr]

WRONG...WELL THAT LIT MY FUSE . AFGANISTAN WAS THE ONLY WAY TO GET AT B***H LADEN, AND NOW LOOK HE IS BASICALY FUNDING THE TALIBAN AND THEY ARE COMIN' @ OUR SOLDIERS. TALK TO ME ABOUT 5 YRS FROM NOW WHEN WE HAVE ABOUT 10,000 DEAD SOLDIERS IN IRAQ BECAUSE WE STUCK OUR NOSES IN THE BEES NEST.
JUST CAUSE SADAM WAS MESSIN' WITH HIS OWN PEOPLE WAS KNOW REASON TO GO OVER THERE. WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, WHAT A JOKE. OH, AND WE ARE NOT THE MOST POWERFUL, THINK ABOUT CHINA WE WOULD GET SMOKED. THAT WOULD LIKE GETTIN' IN A BADGERS HOLE AND TELLIN' HIM WHAT IS UP. WE CAN'T HANDLE WHAT IS GOIN' ON THERE NOW . I HONESTLY THINK THAT THE TOWERS WAS JUST A WARNING.GO BACK TO WHEN THE SOVIET TRIED TO TAKE OVER AFGANISTAN AND THEY FOUGHT BACK WITH BASICALY STICKS AND STONES AND DROVE THEM RIGHT BACK OUT.

[myEspringr]

OH AND THEY NEED TO CLOSE THE BORDERS AND WORRY ABOUT THIS COUNTRY INSTEAD OF TAKIN' CARE OF ANYONE ELSE.
DO YOU EVER SEE ANOTHER COUNTRY HELPIN' US WHEN A NATURAL DISASTER HITS, UMM NO. WHAT ABOUT WHEN 9/11 HAPPENED HOW MANY PEOPLE REALLY CAME RUNNIN'? THE U.S. HAS P**SED OFF SO MANY COUNTRIES THAT IT 'S NOT GETTIN' HELP ANYTIME SOON. THIS COUNTRY IS SO FAR IN DEBT THAT IT WILL NEVER GET OUT. WE HAVE MORE IMPORTS THAN EXPORTS TO EVEN IT OUT , AND THAT'S JUST A START. WE KEEP SENDIN' ALL THIS FOREIGN AID OVER SEAS, I COULD GO ON AND ON BUT WHATS THE POINT I'M WRONG ANYWAY.

[fabsroman]

I agree with your second post for the most part, but don't agree too much with the first post above.

I agree that we need to worry about ourselves first. Whether or not the US has pissed off a lot of countries remains to be debated. A lot of countries might be pissed off at us, but we might not have pissed them off. They might just be pissed because they think we are better than them.

I completely agree that China would be a serious power to reckon with if there was a World War and what really scares me is that China is now telling Congress to keep its nose out of a major oil company take over by a Chinese company. Congress is worrried about the takeover from a national security stand point and I am willing to bet that China wants that oil company for a national security reason.

We have a bunch of things to worry about, but at the end of the day 10,000 troops over 5 years isn't a big deal. We lost 4,000+ people in a single day on 9/11. How many were lost in World War II over a 5 year period? Something tells me a lot more than 10,000. Just did a search and it was slightly over 400,000 lives lost in World War II.

I know, a single life is hard to lose, but sometimes it has to be done. I watched Saving Private Ryan the other night and the way that Tom Hanks' character dealt with having 96 men killed under his command was by telling himself that the death of those 96 men saved over 100 times that many lives in the long run.

War sucks, but sometimes it is inevitable. War is usually the result of envy over somebody having something while the other person doesn't. Kind of like a starving lion having to watch another lion eat a kill. Since the resources on this planet are limited and the human population continues to multiply exponentially, there will be plenty of war.

[Skinny Shooter]

Yeah, Saddam never used WMDs on his own people or the Iranians. My mistake.

Saddam never had a plane fuselage that was used for terrorist training.

Whoops, there I go again.
That was for the Republican Guard to train for anti-hijacking procedures... uh huh

Yep, the Afghans kicked Russian butt on their own, like we kicked British butt on our own during the Rev War...

A free and stable Iraq isn't a good thing in the Middle East either

What you should really be pissed at is the UN for limiting Daddy Bush from rolling over the entire country the first time around. We were in a much better position to take names after killing off many of the Iraqi military.

I've read that Kerry got lower grades in college than our own "stupid" GW. But then GW's daddy must have bribed the college just like the Guard...

We are partly in Iraq for oil and that is a good thing. Our national security at this time depends on the free flow of oil among other things. That is reality.

edited to add:

I believe in freedom of speech but these attacks against Bush and the general direction America is heading is doing nothing but helping the enemy. And emboldening him/her to continue the resistance. There's a time to protest and there's a time to swallow your pride or whatever it is and support the entire situation and keep your trap shut. If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem...
Not just cop out and say "I support the troops but President Bush is wrong". That's not support for the troops when you demoralize them.
So think about that the next time you hear of a US soldier or Marine getting killed.
The media is the biggest culprit next to the Libs who want to see this country fall and fail on the world stage.
Allen

[Andy L]

Yeah Skinny, those buildings and mobile labs were used for making medicine for his people. Not chemical weapons. He only had a year or so warning, not nearly enough time to hide anything in the desert or send it to Syria or Iran, which they sure wouldnt have anything to do with terrorism.....

Anyone who thinks Saddam had nothing at all to do with terror attacks against the US is living in a dream world. Some of its coming out, some never will. And the UN, supposed to be our best friend. What a joke. Who needs enemies when you got firends like that, conspiring with a sworn enemy by giving him money to fight you with.

I think maybe we ought to pick our friends a little closer. And as for other countries and what they think, I dont care. I spent some time with a German fellow this year. I was intrigued, at first. I was very interested in his culture and how they percieve America. I listened to his ignorant views, mainly because he is ignorant. All he knows is what they government media wants him to know. No wonder he hates GW, America and everything we stand for and do. He doesnt see the other side of it. I finally got pretty tired of him. If thats the way they think as a whole, as he claims, I have no plans of Europe, ever. I would much rather go Down Under, where we do have friends and much more interesting anyway.

I have a friend that just got back from Iraq and is going again. He swears, and this isnt the only place Ive heard it, that the media is not showing us nearly the whole picture. He says that there is much more good things happening than bad. Its kinda like your local news. What do you see more of? Shooting, robbery, drug busts, ect...., or school projects, people getting well and out of the hospital, business openings, ect.... Same over there, according to him, and hes been right in the middle of it. No one wants to hear the good news. Makes me sad to think that hes doing something he really believes in and has people sitting in their recliners over here criticizing him for it.

Freedom of speech is a great thing, isnt it? Thank god, and people like him, you have the right to cuss your government and its decisions.

Andy

Edit: Jealousy, from what I could gather from him, is the second cause, next to mis-information, as to why we are hated so bad by the same European countries we saved from Hitler.

[Wolvie]

So I apoligize in advance,.......

But why are we all standing by and letting this go on?!

As free citizens and also having the knowledge of certain events happening or going to happen,...why are we all standing idly by and allowing ourselves to be open for surprize?!

I say prepare yourself, your family, and rally together with your nieghbors,and friends and your online chums!!!!

I am ready and I have my family ready with a plan.
I can not sit and watch the middle east make me and mine a prisioner in my own home land.
I am not a soldier of the Armed services,..nor have I been,...but I am ready to survive and help those survive with me!!!!

If this is what it takes to let you all know where I stand,... I say Kill ` em All and let GOD sort em out!!! I will defend my home,family and friends and LAND that many died for for centuries!!! And most of ALL my FREEDOM!!!!!!!

RALLY ALL
WOLVIE
IS
HERE!!!!

[Skinny Shooter]

We really do need alternative fuels.
I know, I know, GW and the oil companies have the plans in a giant "lockbox" so they'll get big and fat off of oil profits.

Hydrogen fueled cars are a long way off and some progress is being made there. I'd like to see more advances made in solar energy and wind energy too.

No more domestic companies selling oil to foreign countries until our energy needs are met, then sell the excess to the outside.
More refineries need to be built.

ANWR needs to be developed.

Natural gas off the Carolinas needs to be exploited, etc.

Allen