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07-06-2005, 03:42 PM
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I am sorry; I do not get back to threads very often as I have many irons and too many fires.
 Goodoldboy, In my post there was but one true pistol bullet mentioned, that was the 170 Sierra. The 180 RCBS is a rifle and pistol bullet, the 200 RCBS is a rifle bullet, the 180 Hornady SP is a rifle bullet and the 200 Remington is a rifle bullet. My reference to revolvers was intended to give the information that the intended OAL for a carbine, based on the revolver, was attainable. Sorry that the reference confused anyone. No you do not need glasses, if you missed it, I did not write it clearly. It hurts me to say this (I am an RCA member) but, here goes, the GP is not known as a very accurate 357. The barrels are known to be of poor quality with almost non-existent QC. I have owned six GPs, none shot and two were found to have oblong bores about midway down the barrel. Several smiths I know have had the same experience with more guns than I. My comment is not about your choice of a revolver, it is about the gun itself and the GP being the basis of anyone's opinion regarding the 357 as a hunting or heavy bullet cartridge. The GP should not be the basis for any opinion except about a GP. If you ever have the opportunity you should try a good accurate 357, like a Freedom Arms. The FA is amazing, especially the 353. The 353 will shoot right along with a rifle and handle pressures that boggle the mind. The difference between a GP and a FA is the difference between a 1962 VW Beatle and a F-16. They are only similar in that both have wheels or cylinders as the case may be.  You might enjoy reading the following info about the 357 by Paco Kelly: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:g...%2520Heavy.htm If you would like to know more about the 353, take a look at the articles by John Taffin. As a member of the IHMSA, John did some testing with the 353 as a pre production gun and his results are on his web site. The 357 is a cartridge that has been overlooked today by many shooters, as a hunting cartridge. However, in the field, with heavy loads, it can be very effective and in a rifle is a good choice for a lad, young lady or the wife. Ed
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07-06-2005, 04:27 PM
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Thats perfectly alright, we all have other commitments.
You are the second person to tell me they had problems with a GP (the other person claimed that a few dozen of them ordered for a police department didn't shoot etc). My Stainless GP has never done anything but shoot tight consistant, accurate groups. In fact on a good day I can make some very nice clovers at yardage. I wonder if there just hasn't been some bad runs. I have a 6" full barrel shroud GP in stainless btw. Also if there was a problem why not send it back to Ruger? I know the one time I saw an issue with a Ruger (Was on a Vaquero that was shooting right from a bench) they fixed it with a pretty durned quick turn around at no cost to the owner. When I said it tends to prefere the golden sabers I was reffering to the fact that with the golden sabers (and with SOME runs of the winchester 110grain semi jacketed HPS) I can shoot one hole groups with it on a good day. Other types, weights, etc just don't shoot as well in it. In fact a box of winchester silver tips I had shot a 3 inch group at 25 yards. I thought something might have gone wrong with the gun. I loaded up a cylinder full of the winchester 110 grain bullets, and poof. One hole group. . . . . Anyway the reason I was wondering about the rifle bullets is because 180 and 200 grain bullets are available for 357 caliber as a standard bullet for custom loads without haveing to go for rifle bullets. So I was confused (Yes I do need glasses btw I am not quite as near sighted as a bat, but danged near it) GoodOlBoy PS Glad to see you back for a visit.
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07-06-2005, 04:37 PM
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Quick second response. I did a quick search through my favorite bullet companies and found the following for those wanting heavy 357 bullets.
Laser-cast/trueshot. Up to 180gr. Leadhead 205 grain silh bullets. Beartooth. 180, 185, 200, 210 grain 357 bullets. GoodOlBoy
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(Moderator - Gear & Gadgets, Cowboy Action, SouthWest Regional, Small Game) GoodOlBoy@huntchat.com For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - John 3:16 KJV Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. - Ecclesiastes 8:15 KJV "The gun has been called the great equalizer, meaning that a small person with a gun is equal to a large person, but it is a great equalizer in another way, too. It insures that the people are the equal of their government whenever that government forgets that it is servant and not master of the governed." - 40th President of the United States Ronald Reagan 1911-2004
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