Any expieriance with the Whispers?

[unionjack]

So on a 14" barrel what kind of ranges should i keep to with the .300 whisper on deer and antelope? And i am going to want to use a rapid expansion bullet, right? But if i pump the velocities up for that round and bring them back above sub-sonic, what am i going to need to do for bullet selection?

[Rocky Raab]

Well, it doesn't really matter what "name" the cartridge wears; what counts is which bullet at how much speed.

With the excellent 125 Nosler Ballistic Tip, you should be able to get somewhere between 2200 and 2300 fps from a 30-30, a Herrett or the Whisper (but at different pressure levels). If you plug those numbers into any ballistic calculator, you'll see that you get adequate killing power for deer out to about 250 yards. The trajectory at that point is usable, too.

Heavy bullets launched slower (or MUCH slower if you drop subsonic) will have passable energy, but you'll need a range estimate almost down to the yard to deal with the highly arched trajectory. Bullet construction is also a problem - few if any heavy bullets will expand at all at those speeds.

[Skinny Shooter]

http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/showthread.php?t=129

http://www.lasc.us/RangingShotLongWhisper.htm

[bigbrother]

I have no experience with the whispers but have used the 30-30 out of a 10" and 14" contender for a few years. The 130g hornady single shot pistol bullet works very well in this velocity range. 2 years ago I sent my 14" barrel to JD and had him rechamber it for the .309 JDJ. I get 2450fps with a 150 Hornady sst. This bullet expands well and will shoot 5" groups at 400yards off of sand bags. Ol spark and Petey watched it break clay pigeons that far away. Deer definitely die quicker than when shot with the 30-30. As far as I'm concerned though the 30-30 makes a better handgun round than in a rifle...with the right bullet.