7-30 waters reloading

bigkevmorgan · #1 05-23-2006, 06:31 PM

help !!! i'm trying to reload my 7-30 using rcbs fl dies getting buldges in the neck do i need a forming die ??? i'm useing 30-30
cases or trying to any help will be greatly appreciated!!!!!!

Rocky Raab · #2 05-23-2006, 07:13 PM

Do you mean that after you size the .30-30 cases in the 7-30 die, you get what looks like two shoulders - one just above the other?

Because that's perfectly normal. The 7-30 has a shorter neck (or has the shoulder blown forward - depending on how you look at it). When you fire them, you'll see the shoulder has formed perfectly. You'll also see a faint slight bright ring where the .30-03 shoulder used to be.

If that's not clear, I'll shoot a photo and post it later.

I don't have the photos with the original article, but here's the link to my page about the 7-30...LINK

bigkevmorgan · #3 05-23-2006, 07:34 PM

rocky raab thank you so much for the info took a lot of worry of the mind yes to your ? it does look like a dbl shoulder so everyhting looks like its suppose to . i haden't read your atricle on the waters so i'll start with h335 nad h332 i already have some wil put that undr a139gr interbond!! i love hornady bullets
will let you know how this turns out again htanks for the info!!!

Rocky Raab · #4 05-24-2006, 08:01 AM

You'll likely find better results with powders a bit slower. H335 will be fine, but H322 is a bit quick, especially for the 139-gr bullet. If you have some powders in the 4895/4064/Varget/4320 area they should be ideal.

What gun do you have, a lever or a single-shot?

bigkevmorgan · #5 05-24-2006, 01:39 PM

rocky raab i'm loading 7-30 in a 16inch t/c contender ,stainless i bought it used with a simmons 2.5x7x28 haven't shot it yet of coarse will reload some this wknd to see how well it will shoot i have some 154 sp point from hornady hate to use them for case forming but that's what i've got it's 1 hr to a reloading supplier here and farther just to shoot !!!

Rocky Raab · #6 05-24-2006, 03:42 PM

Wonderful! That opens up the whole world of pointed bullets. I think you'll be delighted with the 120 Ballistic Tip for 90% of your hunting needs for deer and such. You can use a cheaper 120 softpoint for practice, a 110 hollowpoint for varmints, and a 139/140 for black bear.

But the cartridge was designed around 120-gr bullets, so that's where it will perform best. I still have some 139s and 140s left from when I wrote that article, but a whole bunch of 120s have gone down that tube in the meantime. I load 'em just as described above: 120 SPs for daily use and 120 Ballistic Tips for big game.

bigkevmorgan · #7 05-24-2006, 04:36 PM

rocky raab thanks for the bullet selection info this web site has really been great so far !! will put info on my reloadig log book ,really like to have all reloading done before the heat arrives! us big boys spoil in the heat!!!

bigkevmorgan · #8 05-27-2006, 02:26 PM

rocky raab i picked up some 120gr v max and a can of imr4064 getting ready to load some will let you know what happens at a later date ... thanks for all the info saved me time & money...

bigkevmorgan · #9 06-03-2006, 04:50 PM

rocky raab i tried the 7-30 today what a riot to shoot!! i'm with you why don't the shooting world pick up on this gem of a cartrige? i was only fire forming today and only shot @50yrds when i shot my 5th round i started to buckel down and get alitte serious couldn't get to the 100yrd or the 150yrd range it was take a # waite in line but i was shooting at a roofing nail @ 50 and my last 4 shot groupe was 0.6130at the widest bullet marks
will reload with 120 v-max this wk and will let you how they do !!!

Rocky Raab · #10 06-04-2006, 09:02 AM

I told ya. That little booger is almost addictive. The power of a .30-30 with the recoil of a 357 mag. And more accurate than either.

MOOSE 4 GOD · #11 07-02-2006, 07:02 PM

Hey Guys my name is Benny and about 6 months ago I wanted a pistol to hunt with the rest of my hunting days to put a little exciment back in the hunt. I read a lot on the 7-30 Waters and read Rocky's reloading article on this gun. I purchased a super 16 and an older frame and ordered all the federal ammo one company had. Only 6 boxes for the brass and to zero my scope in. At a hundred yds this thing is about as accruate as my trusty 7mm Rem Mag. Set of bipods and no sand bags 5 shot groups stay under 1.5 inches with very few flyers. Now I'm ready to reload and I like the 139 Gr.interbond myself but after hearing Rocky's reply I may stick with the 120 vmax. I already have some winchester 748 that kept coming up in all my books rather often and was wondering if this powder is not as good as 4895 which was second best. If anyone has some insight please let me know and I will do likewise with the 748. I got it and may as well try it. thanks so much.

Benny Moses

Rocky Raab · #12 07-02-2006, 07:39 PM

Yup, 748 is great in the 7-30. Most of the powders in that medium-fast to medium bracket are great. Anything that works in the .30-30 or a tad slower will be good or better.

MOOSE 4 GOD · #13 07-02-2006, 07:52 PM

Thanks Rocky: You have helped me an awfully lot with your reloading room web page for the 7-30. I just registered on here last night. It's a good thing you have done and I truly appreciate someone like you just for a ? or 2. I do have a ? on finding data for a 7mm tc pro hunter listed. Love those .284"s. If you have the time to read it I would truly appreciate it.

Thanks so Much
Benny Moses

Rocky Raab · #14 07-03-2006, 09:35 AM

Benny, I am open at any and all times for questions. I may not always have a correct answer, but I'll always make one up! Seriously, I believe a writer owes his readers as much personal attention as he can give. Post on the forums or send me anprivate message or an email at any time.