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05-29-2008, 04:17 PM
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Fabs, as far as who is to blame?
There's a few folks you can blame- I wasn't trying to decide that for you. I have my opinions; yours might be different. I will leave you with a quote from the old comic strip, Pogo. "We have met the enemy, and he is us." 
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05-29-2008, 06:35 PM
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An Angry American
The high price of oil can be blamed on your 401(k) account. You made a lot of money. Guess what the folks that manage your account were buying!
Compare it to the cost of lead, a shooters commodity. Last October (07) the price of lead hit almost $4,000 a metric ton. A year and some before then it was $600 the same metric ton. Had been that way for years. It is now down to a little under $2000 a metric ton. I don't think it will ever go all the way back to $600. Some say it is the Chinese need for lead for batteries. Their new nuclear navy used a lot of lead in reactor shielding. They have quit buying and the price is going down because the speculators are losing their butt.
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05-29-2008, 07:43 PM
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Just remember this, PBR...
If the US elects Barack, it will be an Obama-nation.
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05-30-2008, 12:34 AM
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Talking about the price of lead, I was in shock when I was in Wal-Mart the other day and saw Remington STS shotshells for $7.64 a box. Last I could remember, they were $5.00 a box and that wasn't too long ago. Amazing how something could increase 50% in a year or two.
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05-30-2008, 12:28 PM
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An Angry American
The price of lead shot went from about $12/25lb. before the speculators started to about $50.00/25lb. @ Sportsman's Warehouse at the present time. Needless to say, but the sport of skeet and trapshooting have been seriously affected by the price of lead. Many folks are now shooting 7/8 oz. loads instead of 1 1/8 oz. in the 12 gauge. The .410 has become poppular for skeet and reloading for it has become popular. Try to find a used .410 loader for sale.
If the price goes down (on lead) it will be interesting to see how many flks are going to go back to 1 1/8 oz. loads in the 12 gauge. The 7/8oz. loads and 24 gram international loads are not very different. There are some problems with velocity according to ATA velocity rules. Not all trap and skeet shooting is registered birds.
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