Sarah Palin

[rattus58]

Now that's interesting.... this might come off better than expected...

[rattus58]

Managed by the Government, they say they'll give you care
But really what'll happen is your butt's exposed and bare
They say they'll give you healtcare, but stand in line and wait
They talk a pretty story, and hope you'll take the bait

Now all you dirty fellas, would love to see her bare
Seductively bent over, that leather kitchen chair
But that picture of the Gov, is anohter photo fake
She's really got us pumped, and she's surely not a flake

Obama's got a plan to reduce your spending income
He'll also find to tax, investment, death, and then some
Should babies get some help, should the abortion they survive
Is it straight into the trash can, or should we try to keep them live

Now Sarah has a vision, when it comes to childrens futures
McCains daughter has a smile, after thousands of them sutures
See, every life is precious, and deserves a rightful chance
John and Sarah's vision is that everyone gets to dance

[skeet]

I looked at that questionnaire..It is like most slanted questionnaires. Didin't have my answer on many things..especially abortion. They ask questions that are so slanted you can't answer them the way ya want. But I'll get into it here. Just my take on things..I feel that the government shouldn't have any say on abortions or the right to or the wrong things about abortion. It ain't the government's business..nor yours if it ain't your family. If'n it is your 14 yr old daughter..damn right the doctor should call your sorry butt before it is done. Just common sense. I also feel that the government shouldn't have any say on religious freedoms. I also feel the ACLU should shut up about it and go away. The government should have so little say in the medical field that the price would drop big time..if they just left it alone. I also feel short of having a Bradley tank I should be able to have any firearm I so choose..long as I am a law abiding citizen..yep..even a machine gun.(the average guy would find out they be way to spensive to shoot anyway.) I feel that the government should leave us alone and only deal with the necessary things that governments should deal with..That ain't abortions guns medical plans er any other things that affect our PERSONAL lives. And another thing that the government should NOT do is try to legislate morality. Government should only be heard from if'n we gotta fight or help another country in the world. JMO...and with that I'm gonna leave this thread...cause I ain't changin my mind and I doubt if I'm a gonna change yours!! So I ain't arguing

[rattus58]

Skeet...

You KNOW it's a slanted questionaire but what does that matter if the representations are accurate? They are hitting hot button issues between the campaigns.

As for abortion... Let me ask you something... Where in the constitution does the right to choose have anything to do with the Federal Government? I mean this in a strict sense, not how the Supreme Court twisted it with an activist group of justices.

This is how the Feds wind up getting into our business. This is a States rights issue and these kinds of decisions are what led to these decisions on Gay Marriage and a host of others. Our country needs to run on the original platform, not some meandering live document that some states rights issue is challenged by some yoyo and throws it into Federal Court because as a minority they feel that their feelings are hurt the majority don't wanna do it their way.

Abortion and Gay Rights, and a host of other issues are not Civil Rights Issues, they are State's rights issues.

Back to abortion. This country gave you inalienable rights. THAT IS IN THE CONSTITUTION. No one has the right to take that away from you. Now abortion.. you give the Federal Government too much power, they will change your life in ways you can't imagine. You'll have food police, speech police, thought police (public radio), you'll have them re-educating your children... http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...05420655186700 Now I don't know how credible investors daily news is, but they are promoting things that are fairly easy to check out... as are Obamas two books.

Back to abortion... This should be a states rights issue rather than a federal one especially on an issue of inalienable rights... you are giving any woman the right to choose... when does conception start? For most of us, I think, life starts with conception... when there is that cateclysmic collision of chromosomes that sets off a chain of events that marvels even the the events of a nuclear reaction and much more sophisticated...

I've been down the abortion path in my lifetime twice, and without getting into the details of these most unfortunate events, let me say I've been there done that and though I was not carrying the baby, there is a lot to beg forgiveness for.

I'm not advocating that we change our abortion laws, but if one was to move to change them I'd support it. It would make our country a much better place where people would have to live with consequences.

Aloha...

[rattus58]

In case you missed it in the above reply to Skeet....

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...05420655186700

Much Aloha..

[skeet]

Originally posted by rattus58
Skeet...

You KNOW it's a slanted questionaire but what does that matter if the representations are accurate? They are hitting hot button issues between the campaigns.

Do you like to answer a question when the answer doesn't fit your ideas? I don't



As for abortion... Let me ask you something... I mean this in a strict sense, not how the Supreme Court twisted it with an activist group of justices.

Being a man..how does the SC decision affect you??

This is how the Feds wind up getting into our business. This is a States rights issue and these kinds of decisions are what led to these decisions on Gay Marriage and a host of others.

Sorry to say this but that decision was reinforced in 1865. There really don't seem to be any State's Rights as the Constitution delineated them. Too Late now. Get a grip.


Abortion and Gay Rights, and a host of other issues are not Civil Rights Issues, they are State's rights issues.

Not any more...see above.

Back to abortion. This country gave you inalienable rights. THAT IS IN THE CONSTITUTION. No one has the right to take that away from you.

Then shut up about abortion. When you are able to have one I will support your decison..whichever way you decide.

Now abortion.. you give the Federal Government too much power, they will change your life in ways you can't imagine. You'll have food police, speech police, thought police (public radio), you'll have them re-educating your children...

We already have ALL of those things you mention. Doesn't change the way I think or do. In fact..the reasons I can not support Obama are contained in that statement. He wants more of the above.

[Back to abortion... This should be a states rights issue rather than a federal one especially on an issue of inalienable rights... you are giving any woman the right to choose... when does conception start? For most of us, I think, life starts with conception...


Well I guess for you that is your idea of life. Many others do not feel that way. To deny a woman the choice to do with her body what she deems necessary is not in your purview..You step on someone else's rights when you do..Something it seems you abhor(destroying someone else's right)


I've been down the abortion path in my lifetime twice,

Sorry you have been involved with that..seriously


I'm not advocating that we change our abortion laws, but if one was to move to change them I'd support it.

Yes you are.Your statement actually says that. You WOULD support it and seem to want to


It would make our country a much better place where people would have to live with consequences.

Sorry but I disagree with the above statement..That my friend is YOUR OPINION. Nothing other than that. If a woman chooses to have an abortion..she is the one who has to live with the consequences...not you. Are you going to deny her any rights? Point the finger?? Or what??

If you ask if I support abortion..My answer is I am a man. Hopefully I will never become pregnant..thank goodness..and I feel I have NO RIGHT telling any woman what she can or can't do with HER body. I really do not want to usurp HER rights as you seem to want to do. Personally I doubt if I could choose that way. Not dissing ya but you can't have it both ways as you seemed to believe in your above post.. And now my friend..I truly am done. As there is no way to win an argument..from either side. It is just too much of an emotional issue..and you know it. So let's leave the issues alone. YOU can not change someone else's mind, I fear. Especially with an argument!

Aloha...

[rattus58]

Hi Skeet...

No skeet,, you're playing now with yur own biases and trying to insert them upon me.... and I think you have to look back into the constitution some more.

As for my statement, I'm not trying to change the laws. What I said was if someone were to ask for change I'd support it. There is a huge difference mon.... and I believe that it is a states rights issue as most all of these are... that's basically it.

Aloha... Tom

[rattus58]

[8X56MS]

I actually sent McCain a check. I swore I would never do that. I like Sarah, but she does not 'validate' McCain. He never was my choice, and if he had picked, say Tom Ridge or Lieberman, I would not have voted this cycle.

[rattus58]

She validates McCain to many people... they like her, and if she likes McCain.... "then alright den!"

In my opinion, that is a far stronger validation than just being a Democrat.

Aloha... Tom

[Swift]

Wonder when oprah is going to have her on?

[BILLY D.]

Originally posted by Swift
Wonder when oprah is going to have her on?

If invited and I were Sarah I'd tell Orca to go jump in the lake. Fact is I wouldn't go on any shows unless I hand picked them.

I know Sarah can handle herself, but I'd make them beg me, just for spite. Sarah knows those shows are just a set up to make her look bad.

So I would let them stew in their own juices.

Best wishes, Bill

[Rocky Raab]

Folks, I think we've beat the dirt out of this rug.

Upon request by the original poster, we'll close this thread.