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09-08-2008, 11:50 AM
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High Brass Hooplah
I know that for years my family, particularly my grandfather and his brothers, touted that high brass loads where the only way to go. Once upon a time even my favored 20 gauge 2 3/4" remington grey and green box #6 game loads had high brass shells in them. Now the only high brass I can find are winchester (bleh) loads at the local wally worlds. They also run $17 a box. . . . . Is there any reason to pay this? I mean honestly come on guys. Why the heck WOULD you pay that kinda price difference? My green and grey game loads run around $4.50 when I can find them locally and around $7.75 if I have to order them from cheaper than dirt.
I know that somebody is going to throw in the quality card, but if you are going to then please quote me a price on something other than winchesters. I have had more poof rounds from winchester in the last two years than I can count. You know where you pull the trigger and the shotgun goes *poof* instead of bang and a wad of shot lands around 15 yards out in front of you. Never had one from Remington. Estate cartridge used to be good shells, but I haven't felt like ordering them at their current prices in awhile, and I grew up shooting federals with my remingtons, but trying to find a box of federal field loads around here is like trying to find a sober person at a law enforcement convention. Anyway I was just wondering about the hooplah. GoodOlBoy
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09-08-2008, 11:35 PM
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I don't believe in "high brass" versus low brass for lead loads. I think you can accomplish the same thing with a low brass shell as you do with a high brass shell. Heck, I can reload low brass to perform just like high brass factory ammo. So, the high brass on those shells isn't actually needed.
As far as performance is concerned, you would have to post some numbers GOB. For dove hunting, I use 1 1/8 oz loads at 1,300 fps. Essentially, they are Remington STS Nitro handicap loads in #7 1/2. They will work on most things, and if I could find them in 6's they would work just fine for pheasants. Even for 1 1/4 oz loads, the price shouldn't be that much more. I definitely would not pay $17 for a box of lead loads.
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09-09-2008, 09:31 AM
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That was my thinking. In the lead game loads the 7/8 ounce load is listed as 1210 FPS. In the lead High Brass 7/8 is listed at 1220 FPS. Thats why I didn't understand how they can get away with charging $17 a box. Maybe its just me.
GoodOlBoy
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(Moderator - Gear & Gadgets, Cowboy Action, SouthWest Regional, Small Game) GoodOlBoy@huntchat.com For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - John 3:16 KJV Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. - Ecclesiastes 8:15 KJV "The gun has been called the great equalizer, meaning that a small person with a gun is equal to a large person, but it is a great equalizer in another way, too. It insures that the people are the equal of their government whenever that government forgets that it is servant and not master of the governed." - 40th President of the United States Ronald Reagan 1911-2004
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09-09-2008, 12:01 PM
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The brass on the plastic shotgun shells is just like the rifleings on a slug, totally usless and meaning less. Active proved that with their all plastic cases. It`s what in the case that counts. as I`m getting older I do buy some loaded ammo for geese and coyote, but other than that I still load about everything I shoot.
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