Well, Here it comes...We all should have known it would.

[LoneWolf]

Unfortunately Larry, I have come to the belief it does not make a darn bit of difference who we vote for anymore. They all lie, and don't live up to their campaign rethoric.
I am really starting to wonder if the time for a revoltion is upon is.

[denton]

No doubt, mine is a minority opinion, but what the heck....

In the Heller decision, Scalia finds that one of the purposes of the Second Amendment is to allow people to defend themselves, and that the guns people commonly own for that purpose have 2A protection. He then reasons that handguns are an example of firearms that people commonly choose for that purpose. They are, therefore, afforded 2A protection.

The exact same reasoning applies to black rifles that are not fully automatic.

I have no doubt that a new AWB would be found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. We might have some hard years before the case works its way through, but I feel confident that it would and that we would prevail.

I have serious doubts that such a law will be passed. Too many legislators have found themselves unemployed as a result of supporting gun control. Especially in the House, where they face re-election every 2 years, there isn't going be any enthusiasm for a new AWB.

The thing we really have to worry about is the other approach to gun control. That would start with the US agreeing to the jurisdiction of the International Court, something we have never done. Once that is done, someone could bring a contrived suit in that court claiming damages as a result of US gun law. We would surely lose that. And just like that, we would be subject to UN rule on firearms without any action be our elected representatives.

Will the Supreme Court overturn Heller? No. Not even if the court were packed with the worst gun controllers in the country. The legal doctrine of stare decisis says that Supreme Court decisions are only overturned if they are glaringly wrong. SCOTUS will not re-open Heller. It is a brilliantly reasoned and well researched opinion that will stand.

Soo.... am I happy about the present situation. Not at all. As we all knew, Barry is a lying scum bag with no agenda but personal glory and power. Our situation is worse than it was. But without Heller it would be dire. It is hard to overstate the importance of Gura's victory there.

[Mr. 16 gauge]

OH, to be able to look at the world through rose colored glasses!

I have no doubt that a new AWB would be found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

Unless you've forgotten, the President chooses who he wants on the court.....and we currently have one who will probably not be with us much longer (Ginsberg). Seeing as how he has placed rabidly antigun individuals in key positions, do you really think that he is going to nominate someone that will defend Heller? Esp. since the Democrats have control of both the house and Senate? Especially with Pelosi making statements such as "We are in control; we'll do what we want"?

We might have some hard years before the case works its way through, but I feel confident that it would and that we would prevail.

Alot can happen in the meantime....anyone besides me here see any parallel between the current situation in the U.S. and Germany in the 30's? Huge unemployment, and economy in shambles, nationalization of the banking and other major industries, attempts made by those in power to negate the opposition 'legally', taxing 'the rich folks', and gun control?

I have serious doubts that such a law will be passed

Heard the same thing during the Clinton administration; a lot of folks were stunned when Bush, Sr came out in favor of it.....isn't this the guy who the NRA endorsed during his run for President?

I have come to the belief it does not make a darn bit of difference who we vote for anymore. They all lie, and don't live up to their campaign rethoric.
I am really starting to wonder if the time for a revoltion is upon is.

I don't know about revolution, but it is time that gun owners quit looking to the damn Republicans as thier 'saviors".......their just as slimy as Dems! Seriously, the gun owners of this great nation need to start looking at the Libertarian party....THOSE are the folks that will protect your gun rights!

[Duffy]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I am really starting to wonder if the time for a revoltion is upon is.

I think there will be, it's just a matter of time.

[fabsroman]

If not a revolution, at least some serious rioting. If they want to take my money and my guns, then there is going to be one heck of an issue. First, they will probably try to take the guns, and then the money and personal belongings afterward.

Thing is, I think the poor are looking at it from the opposite angle. They want a revolution because they do not have enough.

[skeet]

Originally Posted by fabsroman

If not a revolution, at least some serious rioting. If they want to take my money and my guns, then there is going to be one heck of an issue. First, they will probably try to take the guns, and then the money and personal belongings afterward.

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Hate to break this to you Fabs..but they already took your money. Many times but just lately they passed a spending bill worth approx 800 Billion. Have read that there is 3.2 trillion in cash in the US..That means they just printed(or will) enough money to devalue your net worth by 25% and then your portion as you have already pointed out I believe is 5700 bucks. It was spent in your(and my) name without us even having a say about it. I know you are an attorney etc but if you aren't pi**ed off about that then you aren't ever gonna get that way. Giving money to private companies in essence makes the government partial owners of that company at the very least..As I have said..Not creeping socialism...bounding Marxism/communism. One day we also will be able to say..the government pretends to pay us..and we pretend to work. If we do not stop this very soon..we are lost for certain.

BTW rioting just won't cut it..too easy to quell that type of uprising.. You don't remember the Baltimore riots...I do as well as other cities