Man killed in hunting fight

[petey]

As the story goes, the said property owner saw the hunters on his land, went down to kick them off. He stated it was his land and to get off and the hunters (2) said he doesn't know his property very well and that they were not on his land, that his boundary was close, but they were not on his land. The said landowner then went back to his house and got an "assult" weapon (I've heard fully auto AK of which apparently wasn't registered..or of a kind that was a federal offense) and proceded to fire upon the hunters striking one. The hunters fired in return killing the land owner.

Given the landowner's past convictions, and from what the locals say, I'd say this story is more true than what the media printed...which wasn't much at all. Fact is, the landowner fired first since he was shot in the head. Can't do much shooting after that happens.

We have quite a few nut jobs around here that have the attitude of shoot first ask questions later if you even step on their property. I have one that lives not 2 miles from my house. He's been known to shoot holes in vehicles parked along the road near his property, slash tires and shoot at them just because. ILike I said, I'm all for protecting one's property, but within the laws. Some people just need a shrink...from what I'm told this landowner was one of them.

[Rapier]

Thanks Pete for the clarification. Wow, that makes a whole new story out of the incident for sure. Not good that this was even reported as a hunting incident by the papers.
Best,
Ed

[Okie Hog]

My wife and I own three hunting properties in two OK counties. We bought those places for hunting, fishing and recreation: There are no cattle or horses on our property. We paid for those properties
and we pay the taxes on them. They were fenced and posted at considerable expense. I plant 12 acres of game plots every year and provide supplemental food for the game. Our property is posted as provided for in OK law. Only one place ever had a big problem with trespassers and that was because of a hunting club that had leased a
big place across the road.

I am a reaonable man who treats everyone like he wants to be treated. People do make mistakes and trespass without knowing it. However, it really does infuriate me when some perp knowingly trespasses on our property. I will approach every trespasser I see on our land. The guy with the 4 wheeler was arrested by me at gun point. He is now serving a life sentence for crimes he did in TX.

OK is a little different from the eastern states. If a guy threatens you on your own land in this state he can be shot. The prosecutors here are not even required to take a good shoot to the grand jury.

[Swift]

Adam, I applaud your conviction.

Just remember there is always someone out there with a screw loose who is faster on the draw.

Stay safe.

[fabsroman]

Originally Posted by Swift

Adam, I applaud your conviction.

Just remember there is always someone out there with a screw loose who is faster on the draw.

Stay safe.

That is what I was going to write last night, and then decided not to. Also, when there are two or more people, it really makes it tough to win a gun fight. It just isn't worth it in my opinion. Law enforcement is trained for that kind of stuff.

If I happen to be trespassing on a landowner's property while hunting (which has never happened, but I'm just saying) and the landowner came out to meet me with a gun, you can bet I would be seriously on edge about the entire meeting because I have no idea if the guy is a whack job or not. Now, if it is a uniformed officer, even with his/her weapon drawn, you can bet I'll be laying down my gun.

I just do not understand why people want to trespass just to go hunting. It seems like an awful risk just to go hunting.

[fabsroman]

Originally Posted by petey

As the story goes, the said property owner saw the hunters on his land, went down to kick them off. He stated it was his land and to get off and the hunters (2) said he doesn't know his property very well and that they were not on his land, that his boundary was close, but they were not on his land. The said landowner then went back to his house and got an "assult" weapon (I've heard fully auto AK of which apparently wasn't registered..or of a kind that was a federal offense) and proceded to fire upon the hunters striking one. The hunters fired in return killing the land owner.

Given the landowner's past convictions, and from what the locals say, I'd say this story is more true than what the media printed...which wasn't much at all. Fact is, the landowner fired first since he was shot in the head. Can't do much shooting after that happens.

We have quite a few nut jobs around here that have the attitude of shoot first ask questions later if you even step on their property. I have one that lives not 2 miles from my house. He's been known to shoot holes in vehicles parked along the road near his property, slash tires and shoot at them just because. ILike I said, I'm all for protecting one's property, but within the laws. Some people just need a shrink...from what I'm told this landowner was one of them.

I've hunted with people that have personally confronted trespassers that were hunting their property. If it were me, I wouldn't be doing it. I'd call 911 and leave it at that. Going out to confront somebody I don't know, who is carrying a gun, just sounds like a bad idea all the way around. Law enforcement is trained to handle this stuff, and people probably react better to an LEO in uniform with a gun drawn on them versus me in jeans and a sweater carrying a shotgun.

Several years ago, I was setting up decoys in a field and another group of hunters had planned to hunt the field that morning. The first guy that arrived called his buddy when he saw me in the field and his buddy told him to get out his shotgun and come down and "talk" to me about what was going on. They actually thought I was the guy that stole their decoys the year before. Anyway, how receptive would I have been to somebody approaching me with a shotgun in their hand? Luckily, the guy didn't take that approach, we talked the situation over, got the farm owner's grandson involved, and we both ended up hunting the same blind together that day and having a great time.