What do you think about the Arizona law?

[jon lynn]

I love it, and think......"About time!"

I just read some stuff in the New York Times (WHO ELSE?) about how unconstitutional it is.

Unconstitutional?

They said it gives local law enforcement 'too much authority to single out individuals'. Ah isn't that how a DWI/DUI starts?

[PJgunner]

Well the excrement in the White House has already got federal lawyers looking into it and frankly, I would not be surprised if some liberal federal judge either puts an in juction to keep it from going into effect or outright strikes it down as unconstitutional. But then again, he and the Congress no longer care what WE THE PEOPLE think.
Technically, the Constitution only allow the feds to regulate immigration. I'm OK with that. If I understand the law correctly, it only allows LEOs to question a person about whether they're here illegally or not and detain them for ICE to do whatever they feel should be done.
It sure has raised a bit of a ruckus around here. Someone has issued a death threat against Congressman Raul Grijalva who favors open borders with mexico and immediate citizenship for the 12 to 20 million illegals here in the country today. To add insult to injury, he's anti-gun, anti-hunting. a green weeny, and IMHO a commie. I believe what would make him the happiest guy around would be to give California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas back to Mexico. He's up for re-election in November and right now, for the first time since I moved to AZ, there might be a chance to kick his sorry ass out of the House. One can only hope. He does nothing of AZ other than to further latino causes and he has the majority vote as the Latinos outnumber the rest of us.
Paul B.

[skeeter@ccia.com]

PJG, that last sentence in your post is what I would be worried about..I can remember years ago my dad telling me about others that were breeding like rats and one day will have the upper hand at things only because of their 'numbers'....no matter how stupid they might be. My gun rights are attacked every day because these same rats shoot each other in the middle of the night in front of a bar doing their drug exchange or over a $5 bill.....why arent they asleep so can get up early in the morning for work?..just keep breeding more rats to outnumber the rest.

[Larryjk]

The previous President of Mexico told all of the people they had a right to come back to the southwestern states since those states had been taken from Mexico in the past. He is the cause of all of this and it will not go away al long as we allow them to "disrespect" us. They only respect those who demand it and we haven't been doing that. The last time was when the US army ran Pancho Villa back to Mexico and punished him somewhat.

[Seawolf1090]

The darkly humorous thing is, the new Arizona law closely mirrors the Federal Law in basic wording, in so far as how it treats the people. The big difference is that the Federal Law only allows the Feds to use it - locals are not authorised. So in actuality, it is a turf dispute. The Feds don't get the heat from the latinos because they largely ignore the law, wanting those latinos to support their agenda. Arizona is upsetting their applecart.

[bulletpusher]

Yea, the former messican government (if you can call it that) wanted all of the boarder states given back to messico. The only problem is that Texas (and Texas is not alone) was not taken from mexico.

Texas fought a war of Independence and won its freedom from messico. We were a sovereign nation twice in our history and elected to become a state in the union of the United States of America.

The only problem is that that illegal in the white house and the commie jerks in the house and senate have destroyed the meaning of the Constitution of the United States of America. In my opinion the United States is no longer a country unless the illegal crap that is spewing from congress and the senate is proven to be just that, illegal and the rights of the People are restored.

Bulletpusher

[Larryjk]

It is interesting that the Mexican flags that were so prevalent in the immigration riots a year ago are missing this year. A "change" in strategy. So many illegals that have been here for more than one generation are scared because they have never tried to get US citizenship. They feel it is their "God given right". Why isn't it that way for people from other countries? May be because they choose to obey the law. No respect.

[buckhunter]

Its just another sign that people have had it up to their eye balls with our Federal Gov't and their attitude about "we the people" In all honesty I bet the farm in a year or so that it will not be enforced like a lot of the laws on the books. Am I in favor of sending them back, you bet. This will be overturned.

Remember folks. Vote out the current batch in November.

[jon lynn]

The HUGE issue here, all those dorks seem to leave out the most important word when describing the issue here. Pay attention to the first word of the next line.

Illegal Aliens!

Illegal (i l***275;***8242;g***601;l) adjective, prohibited by law; against the law; unlawful; illicit; also, not authorized or sanctioned, as by rules.

[buckhunter]

Jon,

It don't matter whether they are illegal. They ain't going back. Never.

Vote out the current bunch. The Tea Party have a point.

[8X56MS]

Were it not for the FACT that both the GOP and the dhimmicrats are in the tank for amnesty.......................

..........none of this would be necessary.

[Larryjk]

All of the talk about amnesty is what caused the mass run for the border from the south side. They figure if they can get here we won't run them back and will eventulally give them citizenship. No respect because we haven't earned it recently. We need to get hard nosed and let them know we mean business. Bring the army home and give them a new job and loaded rifles to enforce it. Then the USA will start to get respect.

[PJgunner]

Maybe we should send a copy of this to our non-representatives.
FWIW, I plan to.
Paul B.
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Let me see if I got this right.....


· - IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.



· - IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.



· - IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.



· - IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.



· - IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.



· - IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.



· - IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.



- IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET................................



1 - A job

2 - A DRIVERS LICENSE,
3 - SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
4 - WELFARE,
5 - FOOD STAMPS,
6 - CREDIT CARDS,
7 - SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
8 - FREE EDUCATION,
9 - FREE HEALTH CARE,
10 - A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON,
11 - BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE,
12 - AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT.



I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE

I HAD A FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION...
Paul B.

[Adam Helmer]

PJgunner,

WOW! You sure got it RIGHT!

In our local newspaper today, The "Williamsport, PA Sun Gazette" Michelle Malkin had an instructive op ed article, "How Mexico treats illegal aliens."

I SUGGEST WE TREAT ILLEGALS IN THE USA AS MEXICO TREATS THEIR ILLEGALS!

What COULD be more FAIR?

Adam

[popplecop]

The big difference between Federal Law and Arizona Law is the enforcement of a law. As a retired Law Enforcement Officer I really feel sorry for the members of the U.S. Border Patrol who want to do their job but are hampered by politics.