Tragic event in NY

[Adam Helmer]

Joe,

Good thread! I did not see where the distance between the two cops and Johnson was specified. I am not surprised that nine bystanders were hit by the two cops who fired 7 and 9 rounds, per my newspaper. Seven bullets hit Johnson and, thus, nine rounds hit "Friendlies" as we say in the Police Firearms Training scenarios.

My newspaper also said that in routine police shootings, "five rounds are fired regardless of distance from cop to cadaver." Most cops do not practice with their duty firearm and are not proficient; they qualify twice per year, most MINIMALLY, and in the stress of an armed confrontation they engage in "Spray and Pray." Hence, Nine wounded citizens.

Adam

[Rapier]

Adam,
Your experiance and my experiance is exactly the same. Your assesment is spot on. I spent many years as a combat arms instructor for and to our local LEOs. I can count on one hand the officers I would call proficent of 4 Counties. Now, that is a very sad comment on our local City, State and County officers.

It is amazing to watch officers become phisicly ill awaiting a simple firearms qualification, because they have failed to practice in order to remain even basicly proficient with the gun they carry every day. I have heard all of the excuses and still can not fathom a person whom carries a gun for a living being unable to use it. It boggles the mind.

But NY, NY has even more problems in that the culture of anti gun is so extreame it carries over to the police force and their training and most certinly their equipment. The NY triggers as required by NY City are amazing, as an example. Go to a Glock custom site and look at the NY triggers, what an abomination.
Ed