Just wondering about stuff

[skeet]

We do have a load of resellers. I see 22 ammo advertised every week for ridiculous prices. I've been buying and selling stuff since I was 12. Sold my first shotgun then. Just kept going from there. Never saw stuff this hard to find. As far as 22's and handgun ammo. I truly do think there is a hoarding element..maybe on some rifle ammo too. But consider. A place like Wally World gets a supply of 22s. The counter guy calls a friend or two and voila..all gone. I KNOW that happens locally. And the clerk gets a buck or two extra. But consider. You see a box of say 270 Win in the store..it is ok to spend 25 bucks every now and again specially using the ol plastic. Makes stuff disappear quickly..an easy thing to do even for the guy that doesn't really need the ammo. Eventually..it may just even out..but it ain't happening soon guys

[Rapier]

Oh, yes I saw that at Tulsa last year. Wally World locally got in a large shipment of 22 ammo so this guy takes his whole family (mom, dad, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, kids and wife) down and buys two bricks each. Then he has the gall to take one of their shopping carts and bring it into the show about half full of 22 ammo. So he stops in front of my tables and starts selling the $22 a brick ammo for $75 and people are buying it, but he made one mistake, he is blocking my tables. So I go out and ask him what he is doing and he gleefully tells me what he has done. I invite him to go somewhere else. So he leaves. In a minute here comes security, I stop them and ask pointedly why I should ever pay $110 for a table again. By show's end they announce that sale carts will not be allowed in the show again. I guess the other dealers got the chapped fanny. Some of this has just gotten way out of hand. On Friday there were just a few, on Saturday there were about twice the amount and by Sunday they were everywhere. They were not dealers that paid for tables. But the greed got them banned, or so the Big Wanna said.

A question, how do you go about selling bullets in boxes? Do you just sell them or do you limit the amount per buyer?
Ed

[skeet]

When primers were really tight and every one wanted them..I limited a buy to 1 thousand. and don't come back.not even with a friend. I saw one buyer stop a friend of his and give him the money to buy another 1000. I wouldn't sell his friend a box. And Since I know the guy..I will no longer sell anything to him. He was very annoyed when he found out. With powder esp hard to find kinds such a CFE 223 I limit them to one pound. But what I have been doing the last few shows is to only put up one pound of each type. I decided to not sell 22 ammo any longer. Just isn't necessary and you can't replace 'em..no matter what you get for 'em

AS YOU STATED IN A POST. I TOO STILL BUY PARTIAL AND FULL BOXES OF 22 AND 30 CAL BULLETS AT SHOWS..darn cap lock. At my last show I got a bag of 43 100 gr Nosler partitions..the old screw machine type had 44 in the bag...got 'em for 5 dollars. I quit buying 25s cause I have Soooo many now. But you are right. in the 22 size I buy all the 40-50 gr type I find. They load cheaply to make rimfire speed ammo. or Hornet and 222 . You know what I mean. At the last show I bought 4 bags of Hornady 55 SP with Cannelure 200 to a bag for 10 bucks a bag. I PAID the asking price. that was 5 dollars a hundred

[Rapier]

A question, I do not shoot partition bullets myself, do the screw machine made bullets have a turned or machined looking surface? Just wondering on how to ID them.
Ed

[skeet]

The old screw machine partitions have a relief cut in the middle of the bullet.You can't miss it. I will try to take a picture and post it. I buy them all the time in small lots in most calibers. They did that to reduce pressures as the partition was a hard bullet and raised pressures pretty badly....esp with the powders available at the time they came out. We don't know how lucky we are nowdays..even with the powders hard to find. Barnes is doing it with the X bullets now. That bullet really raised pressures so they started putting grooves round the bullet. I had some of the older 130 gr X bullets for the 30 cal I could get 3000 ft per second in the 300 Savage. I can get a little better velocities with the new bullets at safer pressures.

[skeet]

I guess I should make it clear that the relief cuts on the bullets just reduced bearing surface in the barrel. less bearing surface in the bore equates to lower pressure I have been told that some of the A frame bullets have been looked at as having too much bearing surface too. Remains to be seen if they are going to use the usual route to reduce pressures. Looking at some of their loading data ...wow.

[Jack]

The relief cut is really obvious on the old Partitions, you won't mistake it for anything else. The old Partitions also did have very light machine marks on the exterior. You might not notice the machine marks unless you are looking for them, but on close examination, it's obvious they were made on a screw machine, if you are familiar with screw machine work.