EMERGENCY ALERT! Mexico Military Raid a home in Phoenix, Arizona

[fabsroman]

Skeeter,

I honestly don't even fear an attack by Mexico or Canada. Do you really think either of those countries could sustain an attack against us, or even take over the country? I think we have enough troops here, the national guard, and reservists, that could put up one hell of a fight to win, and even if they couldn't win on their own they could make it tough enough and long enough on any bordering country that the rest of our forces would be able to get back here.

Me, I worry about things like China, Russia, and starvation. Supposedly, India is going to be the next country with 1 billion people. That is a lot of mouths to feed. If people are starving now, wait a decade or two as the population continues to grow.

Last but not least, I seriously agree that our borders have to be better protected. I am all for a border policy akin to Israel. It would suck to make an example of a couple of border crossers by killing them, but I guarantee that it would get the point across. Then again, God forbid if we ever need Mexico's help down the road.

[skeet]

Ya gotta leave them frijoles alone man. Them things is bad fer ya. Specially when ya on a diet.

[gumpokc]

Originally posted by fabsroman
Skeeter,



Me, I worry about things like China, Russia, and starvation. Supposedly, India is going to be the next country with 1 billion people. That is a lot of mouths to feed. If people are starving now, wait a decade or two as the population continues to grow.

I agree with ya Fabs, but one little thing...India past the billion mark about 5 years ago. It's current population is roughly 1,125,000,000 give or take 10 million depending where you check for info.

[skeeter@ccia.com]

I don't know...but I do think if it came down to it and we did happen to get invaded from anyone....those of us old military boys/girls or not....would dig out our arms and have at it....what ya think?...Now I am talking tanks etc marching down our streets because as far as I am concerned, we are already gettin invaded..just not in a military or confrontational way....but is still killing this Country....and what is spooky is I think Obama is going to get pres...even if we don't vote for him....I think that is in the books already....sure hope I am wrong....

[Lilred]

Ya know Skeeter...I could not imagine NOT doin so.
Tanks or not, I would rather die attemptin to protect my children than to die meek and beaten.
Me and my guns would fight....
With the price of gas, food and we just got the notice that our electric bill is goin up 18% yesterday..lol...things are going to be hard.
For the past year, my focus has been on the 4 things any human needs to survive: food/water, shelter and heat. I have all 3, wether or not I have electricity, a grocery store or a vehicle. Now, that my seem ludicrous to some...but what if hubby loses his job? If people stop buying/fixing cars..(and it's already started btw) then what? While most may not remember the great depression, i surely dont want to be another statistic of one, today or in the future.
Think of how many children would starve if their parents could not afford or get to a grocery store. Seriously....

[GoodOlBoy]

Lilred you ain't just whistlin dixie. I know alot of people that can't make it without everything storebought. I have three good creeks for fish that are an EASY walk from the house. I didn't plant a garden this year like I should have, and I haven't gotten the late garden in yet, but believe me I will at the end of the month. I have a good spring on the property, and a decent home. That leaves electricity. I can cook on a fire with the best of 'em. Ain't sayin it will be easy, but I am sayin I can do it. And like you I ain't rollin over an playin dead to NOBODY.

GoodOlBoy

[skeet]

Have been puttin up strawberry jam lately. Just picked some more this morn. We have some maters acomin on and we'll can a bunch of them and make some tomato sauce fer spaghetti and chili. The beans is comin up purty good and momma has beets.(boy has she got beets. Taters are abloomin so soon I can eat me some new taters. Corn is lookin good. the grapes is growing(next year they'll bear as will the raspberries. We even got pole beans a growin. Hope they make a few. The apple trees is pretty full so we can have applesauce. Cabbage is lookin good and the broccoli goes in the end of this month. Guess we'll be able to eat a little. I even got watermelon..get me some pork ribs and barbeque them devils and have the watermelon after. YEEEEHAAAAWWW. Just gotta say...I'm glad I ain't no Yankee....errr...aaahhhhh. I ain't meanin to step on no toes. Y'all have ta unnerstand..I did marry a yankee...but I dint have no choice. Her daddy had a shotgun!!! An he was a southern boy!

[GoodOlBoy]

Lol. Yep them shotgun totin fathers is sumthin else. With my in-law experience he woulda been tryin ta keep me away not the other way round.

It ain't to say we ain't got produce a commin in. I had a few blueberries this year, my blackberries didn't do much, and my plums did less. My strawberries have just started puttin little ones on, but then they was planted late too. I have several neighbors who planted more than they needed again this year (like we all usually do) so they are payin back some of the kindness we have spread in the past. You can bet yer behind though that this time next year I will have a good garden goin (and be spreadin the kindness again)

Been waitin fer the man down the road to start sellin peas again. Last year we were buyin purplehulls from him for $4 a bushel, this year it will probably go up some, but we sure do get alot of jars to put up from just a few bushels.

GoodOlBoy

[fabsroman]

If her father was a southern boy, how the hell was she a yankee?

[skeet]

Usually born in the north. Darn girl was born on Long Island. He was a southern fellow that just happened to be recovering from (many) wounds received in the war. The man fought with the Brits commando teams for 3 yrs then was reattached to the 3rd army(Patton's). He was wounded 9 times in the ensuing 4 yrs..the last time pretty bad. They put him in a hospital in New York. Can't believe it but he married a yankee. Her momma wasn't too awful keen about me for a while...course she was a yankee(said with a sneer) What we really need though is to seal our borders and only allow in who we need to...and only for short periods of time. We have to get a handle on the illegal problem

[skeeter@ccia.com]

Skeet I think we all at HC seem to agree with the border problem and what needs done but if any one of us spoke that in public, we would hurt someones feeling and we would end up being the bad guy...and again, nothing would ever get done about it.....just those like us at HC will still sit around and say what the problems are and what should be done...and hand someone a towel to dry their tears from hurt feelings.....think any body will ever actually act on it?

[fabsroman]

Does Congress really do anything about the serious issues? They just punted on the AMT tax, which unless it gets patched later on during the year, will mean that more middle income Americans, including yours truly, will be paying a good amount more in taxes. The AMT was put in place 40 years ago to prevent the rich from getting around paying taxes, and it hasn't been indexed for inflation since. $100K was worth a lot more 40 years ago than it is today.

The illegal problem won't be solved until it is a huge problem. Personally, I think we should just take over central america up to the Panama Canal, and use the Panama canal as our border fence. With all the Mexicans and other nationalities that we acquire from the takeover, we would have plenty of people willing to relocate and work.

[skeet]

When(hopefully I am wrong) Osama Obama gets elected it sure ain't gonna get solved. In fact I think he will just turn his back on the problem and let more happen. That man is going to be the ruination of this country in my opinion. Might be time to take the problems into our own hands.

[Rocky Raab]

Well, there are Costa Ricans, and there are Puerto Ricans. If things keep going the way they are here, we won't be Americans anymore, we'll be Ame Ricans.

[Aim to maim]

Originally posted by fabsroman

Personally, I think we should just take over central america up to the Panama Canal, and use the Panama canal as our border fence. With all the Mexicans and other nationalities that we acquire from the takeover, we would have plenty of people willing to relocate and work.

Just what we need, several million more citizens to vote for Democratic Party candidates who will promise them the moon.

They will be willing to work not one day more than they have to. Once they are eligible for food stamps and free health care, etc., you will see a decided change in their "work ethic."

Besides, if it's that good an idea, why stop at the Panama Canal? Why not just go all the way to Tierra del Fuego?