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12 GA rifle from Hell
hubel458, I think you must be the guy giving some of my customers ideas. What is the "AR" site? I would like to browse it to increase my knowledge of ideas I don't need.
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AR is the Accurate Reloading forums- I post on the
big bore one. Th right hand 8ga case is made from 20mm Suzy brass(Hispano-Suiza).Added rim, reshaped. In the 87 Win Levergun, smooth barrel, long barrel, using brass RMC 3" cases, 1 oz Brenneke KO slug to 2700 with 4227 powder. Shotgun primer. I will be getting some 3.5" RMC brass that he will put a special longer corner radius in, to allow faster loads with less case expansion and easier resizing. Should get same slug to 3000 and resize easier also. With shotgun primer able to use 4227, and you WON"T have to rework hammer or firing pin to do big primers. Santa sent me 9 more PROP cases.Got 12 now.Ed
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THE 8GA FH BELLERED TODAY. It is in Enfield I rigged with
rear locking bolt lugs. 32" barrel, tested 3.3" plastic cases. Cases are the REM kiln gun cases. With the double cup base. I shaved base a little so that chamber will fire these as well as regular 8ga plastic. None of the firing today expanded base cups at all, so they are real strong cases. Started testing to check ignition with shotgun primers and to see if cases are any good. Starting with a 110 gr mouse ball, wad under it, and 150 gr of Blue Dot, about 5000 fps.. Gun didn't even recoil.Then a 410 gr one at 3000 fps, Then a 770 gr hollowbase slug in a wadcup up to 2000 so far with 180gr of 7383. Barrel is smoothbore. 832" bore at the muzzle. Ed
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8GA FH testing- using IMR 4759, 770 gr slug,
top load of 140 gr, got 2500 fps...... Over 10,000 ft lbs..Cases extract easy. Here is picture of Enfield 8GA FH. You can see plastic case in the port. Box of cases behind, 770 gr and 1050 gr slugs in front with the 8ga wadcups I use. Left two slugs are 1050 gr made from 3 oz kiln slugs. I rounded nose and put in hollow base. Also the cards and fiber wads used. Slugs are hollowbase, as it is smooth bore barrel. Ed
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Here is picture on left of the 12ga hollowpoint slug
with plastic tip. Makes it streamlined, good for 300yds. And still will expand good thin skinned game-deer. I put tip in with glue gun in few seconds, and shaped a point on it with trim knife. Ed
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12GA rifle From Hell
The little indentations at the mouth tell me it is a 20mm. Used to find some of them laying on the ground of the gunnery range. Don't know where they all went?
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I also have two other cartridges with my name
on them that I am promoting. They are my 700HE and my 585BHE. They both belted straight cases. Montana Rifle company is coming out with their big PH action and some guys will be doing my cases in them. Info on the 585BHE. It will work in any gun that handles 505 Gibbs like Enfield, CZ, Ruger,etc.Mine is in Enfield.On left in picture is one next to puny Trex. And mine holds 15gr more powder than that Trex case. 585BHE will do 750 grain from 1800 to 2800 fps in my Enfield. Anyone interested setting up a gun, contact me I will furnish reamer and 15 free cases. Cases are headstamped. When done return reamer to me, for the next guy. I will keep them sharpened. After a few guys have guns we all will get together with others wanting some and get a run of brass made. These cases are all drawn high pressure brass. I'd like guys to ask for reamer when gun is going to be ready to chamber, that way reamers get the most guns done in shortest time.Ed
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On Fri May 2 8pm on the Science Channel ,they will have
an article about the heavy barrel cannons that shoot the brass cases for bomb disposal.They are the same as our 12GA FH case,when resized in my dies and are shown in this thread a couple months back in picture. It will show them using them for bomb disposal. Ed
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Testing 8GA FH in Enfield, 1050 gr slug in wad cup, 120 gr
of 4759, over 2000 fps. Cases extract easy. Hardly any base cup expansion..Here is picture of a sectioned 8ga plastic case I did, showing how heavy and strong it is built. The plastic is one piece compressioned formed and the sides of the cases are twice as thick as 12ga cases.You can see the double thickness of the base cup. Ed
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12 GA rifle From Hell.
I am fasciated by what I have been seeing in these posts. Unfortunately, I don't have time or customers who will take one of these on. Maybe when things slow down some.
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Here is picture of the bolt setup for the 8ga
Enfield we did.Also comparison to a Mauser 12ga shotgun bolt conversion, from which I got the concept. Ed
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12GA rifle From Hell
I had a friend in college who had a Mauser 12 ga original conversion. I understand from his brother he still has it. Are you reading this, Tom (Pekoe)?
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I was asked how I got 8ga heavy barrel so quick.
First it is smoothbore, second a 110 bucks total shipping and all. First I bought a 1.5 inch dia 4130 alloy, heat treated, shaft, 32" long. Then I had a deep hole drilling company drill a .832" hole in it. Came out centered on both ends. Then after it got here I used cylinder hone to polish the inside of the bore. Threaded it, chambered it, and put in the Enfield bolt action. The heat treating it had was just like the barrel stock that barrel guys get. Ed.
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For those wanting to see video of the 12GA FH in
the Savage busting big pail of water, one of the kids posted it on Youtube- Titled "Grampa's Cannon". I just found out that it is on there. This was the video that the still pictures posted before, was taken from. They have the sound muted so as not to hurt camera sound system. Ed
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