Which 9mm has the highest Caps

[flbowhunter]

I have been looking for a new 9mm pistol with a +10 round mag cap. just for the heck of having a high cap 9. any ideas how high they can get to..... and/or your prefrence (factory mags only no after market jobbies).

[gregarat]

Mabe a Glock 17 or 19?

[Adam Helmer]

flbowhunter,

Gregarat gave you good advice. I was an agent and carried both the 9mm Glocks M17 and, the smaller, M19. The M17 takes a factory magazine of 17 rounds +1 up the spout gives you 18 total. The M19 takes a magazine of 15 rounds +1, gives you 16 rounds. But wait, a M19 Glock will take the M17 factory magazine for 18 rounds. I like the 9mm a lot and shoot my Glocks often. We had a few Beretta 92Ds and they also took a 15 round magazine +1, as I recall.

Adam

[gregarat]

Originally posted by Adam Helmer
flbowhunter,

Gregarat gave you good advice. I was an agent and carried both the 9mm Glocks M17 and, the smaller, M19.

When I went to register my m19 yesterday the Sherifs were all exited about it. At first I wondered why they were making a big deal about a Glock, when any other handgun wouldnt raise an eyebrow? Then I remembered that all the L.E.O.'s in these parts carry a Glock.

Adam were you in the F.B.I.? I thought they used the .40? I even heard a roumor that the Feds were switching to the 10mm.

[TreeDoc]

Save yoursellf the trouble of reloading magazines and buy a Glock 18 (full auto G17) and a few 30 rounds magazines!

[Adam Helmer]

gregarat,

I was a Postal Inspector from 1970 until 1996; for 10 of those years I was also the Firearms Instructor for all 100 Inspectors in New England. We had S&W M10 2-inch and 4-inch .38 Specials when I went on duty in 1970. In 1989 we went to the Glocks. In 1995 we went to the 9mm Berettas. I worked with other federal and state agencies. Yes, the FBI did use 9mms for a time, then they had .40 S&Ws and some 10MMs for special squads. Some old agents there still had wheelguns in 1996, but I am not sure what is standard issue now that I am retired.

I preferred the Glock 19 and was able to buy mine and it retired with me in 1996. Happy New Year.

Adam

[kt]

wait you mean you want an assault weapon! since that whole thing ended you can get them for a number of nine, of course the glocks, one thing that has me cracking up is the people that are buying the tiny G26 and putting big 13rd extentions on them (it makes it very close in size to a G19. I havent looked into it but one of the magazines i think Cheaper than dirt, offered some really high cap mags. and XD pistols are being sent with 13 rounders as well. enjoy
kt

[bucktrack7]

How about a S&W model 59? I have one that I am very fond of. It has a 15 round mag. and is enjoyable to shoot.

[VinVega]

You can get 50 rounders for a Tec-9 for about $20. I will tell you, though, a Tec-9 will missfire so much that it'll seem like forever emptying it.
For a good pistol, you can get 30 rounders for Glocks and Beretta 92's.

[LoneWolf]

While I was looking for mags for XD9 tonight (15 rounders), I see I can get a 30 round for that too. Sounds interesting, but kinda made me scratch my head and wonder why.

[gregarat]

I wish I could at least play with a G18. It may not hold more than 31, but its full auto.
Im not in the SAS, so I never fired one. Although I would assume this puppy doesnt jam, alot .




http://www.glock.com/body_g18.htm

[PJgunner]

Well, if magazine capacity is the ruling choice, there's the calico 950. Comes with 50 and 100 round magazines. There was one semi auto handgun that had a 20 round mag in 9mm. I forget what it was called, but it was ugly as all get out,was rather heavy, and the trigger pull was so bad it took both hands holding the gun and one finger from each hand to even get the thing to go bang. A fellow had one at the range several years ago, and he allowed me to try and shot it. As tough as it was to pull the trigger, it would have been a miracle to use that POS in a survival situation and survive. What really hurt is it was also quite pricey. The trigger pull made even our current lawyer proof triggers seem well adjusted.
Paul B.

[MarkL]

This may be a little off-topic, but...

I went to a gun show with a friend a long time ago. He became enamored with a 9mm pistol that took a 50-round rotary/helical magazine mounted on top of the gun (did I mention this was a long time ago?). I believe the rear sight was on the magazine. Empty cases ejected straight down. He bought it and also bought a similarly designed .22 by the same maker. Don't remember the make or models.

I tried to steer him toward more popular, conventional guns with good reputations, but once he saw the "wonder guns", he was hooked. He said "I'm going to love this 50-round magazine because I hate reloading." and "Those other guns are just too primitive."

Both his guns were junk. The .22 would rarely fire twice without jamming. The 9mm only worked with HP ammo. FMJ ammo couldn't "turn the corner" getting from the mag to chamber. HPs only worked because the hollow point made the nose soft enough to deform as it fed, and not get stuck. It probably could have been made to work with reloads.

Anyway, about that 50 round magazine. It had some kind of wind-up spring. To load it, you pushed a button or something to relax the spring, inserted the ammo, then turned a knob to wind up the spring. When we went to the range together, he would sit down and start loading his mag, while I stood up and started shooting. By the time he got that 50 round mag loaded, I could shoot about 4 or 5 8-rounders through my 1911 without hurrying.

I learned a couple of lessons from my friend's mistake.

First, high-cap magazines have their place, but I don't think they offer any advantage for casual shooting. Regardless of the magazine capacity, every round you fire will have to be loaded one at a time (with rare exceptions). For casual target-shooting, you don't really want to hold a gun up and shoot for 50 rounds uninterrupted. Your arms and hands get tired unless you're just spraying bullets.

Second, radical design and/or high-capacity do not necessarily mean better or more sophisticated. My "primitive guns" (his word) would outshoot his "wonder guns" (my word) any day of the week, especially in terms of reliability, and they also fit the human hand better. There's a reason most guns have the same basic shape and design: it works.

[PJgunner]

Mark. I think you're talking about the Calico.
Paul B.

[MarkL]

YES, Calico! You managed to upload your first post while I was typing mine. It was accurate enough, but very unreliable.