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Old 01-19-2005, 10:12 PM
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DEREK KIEPER: Individual rights buckle under seat belt laws

I’m from the school of thought where everyone should have the right to do as they please as long as they are not infringing on the rights of other people. This comes from the political philosophy that inspired our founders and freedoms.

The duty of government is nothing more than to make sure everyone’s rights are protected and not infringed upon. Uncle Sam is not here to regulate every facet of life no matter the consequences.

No law, or set of laws, has made the government more intrusive and ridiculous than seat belt legislation. Nothing is a bigger affront to the ideas of freedom, liberty, yada, yada, yada. Whether you are a pinko liberal or a right-wing whack job, there are plenty of reasons for just saying to hell with seat belt laws.

Democrats and Republicans alike should stand together to stop these laws that are incongruous with the ideals of both parties.

For Republicans, seat belt laws represent an enormous cost to the federal government. Perhaps the amount of money we spend on safety belts pails in comparison to our defense budget, but it still seems to be a ton of money to make a choice for a person.

The government budgets $13.4 million to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration through the U.S. Department of Transportation for educating the public about safety belt laws.

Remember the “Click It or Ticket” commercials you saw on TV this summer during the tourist season? Well, the government wasted millions on those ads to make sure you knew officer Joe Friendly was going to be pulling you over for not wearing your seat belt.

The government also dispenses $25 million in grants to local law enforcement to increase the usage rate of seat belts. Even the Lincoln Police Department got a grant to help enforce the safety belt laws – lucky us.

Most ridiculous, though, is the $100 million doled out to states that have primary seat belt laws – these are the laws that say you can be pulled over for simply not wearing your seat belt.

If one is doing the math, that is more than $138 million spent on seat belt laws. But the kicker is this: It is estimated, by researchers for Congress, that only 6,100 lives are saved per year because of new seat belt wearers. Moreover, the increase in the percentage of those who wear seat belts has leveled off.

As laws become increasingly strict for seat belts, fewer people will respond positively by buckling up in response to the laws. There seems to be a die-hard group of non-wearers out there who simply do not wish to buckle up no matter what the government does. I belong to this group.

For the states’ righters of the right, this legislation represents another attempt by the federal government to step on the toes of the states. Not only does the federal government currently fund grants to increase usage, but bills are being debated that would punish those states that did not have seat belt laws, by withholding funding – usurping the right of the state to decide its own safety laws.

What frightens me more about safety belt laws is the intrusion they represent to Americans. Democrats should take notice. Choice is an important aspect of freedom – choice to do as I see fit with my body and being.

Yet, the government has decided that I do not have the choice to drive around without my seat belt. It is my choice what type of safety precautions I take. It is ridiculous to legislate actions that have no immediate effect on other individuals.

Telling me to wear my seat belt is the same as making sure I have some sort of proper education before diving into a swimming pool. If I want to dive in without knowing how to swim, that is my right. And if I want to be the jerk that flirts with death and rides around with my seat belt off, I should be able to do that, too.

If we regulate decisions that are personal and deal with safety, we very soon may be confronted with a slippery slope of legislation. What is next? Helmet laws for walkers? Kneepad regulations for office government interns? Or perhaps some sort of mandate for protective headgear for golfers will hit the law books in the future.

What should be most scary for those who love freedom and privacy is the government’s consideration of a bill to punish all states that do not have primary seat belt laws.

Officers have enough reasons to pull us over in the first place. This just allows them to pull people over and give us citizens a good shakedown whenever we want. Does anyone else see a problem?

I’m sure college students would love to be pulled over and asked by the cops why they were not wearing their safety belt, and then maybe the police can catch a whiff of something – that may or may not be there – and searching ensues.

I can see now officers not being able to see your buckled belt as they pass you at night – because it is dark – so they pull you over to make sure. Simple enough, police do not need another reason to pull anyone over; they do it enough as it is.

All those who want the choice not to click have a few options. One is exempt with a doctor’s note, or if pregnant. Or you can move to New Hampshire, the only state without a seat belt law. New Hampshire might be my bastion of choice some day, but for now I am stuck in Nebraska.

I just wish we could keep the government out of our pocketbooks and out of our personal decisions.

http://www.dailynebraskan.com/vnews/...d?in_archive=1
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Old 01-19-2005, 11:34 PM
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I-80 crash claims UNL student's life

Derek Kieper was a smart, funny, intense young man who relished a good debate and would do anything for his friends.



Kieper, a 21-year-old senior at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, died early Tuesday morning when the Ford Explorer he was a passenger in travelled off an icy section of Interstate 80 and rolled several times in a ditch. Kieper, who was riding in the back seat of the Explorer, was ejected from the vehicle.

Two others in the vehicle, including the driver, Luke Havermann of Ogallala, and the front-seat passenger, Nick Uphoff of Randolph Air Force Base in Texas, sustained non-life threatening injuries. Havermann and Uphoff, both 21, were being treated at BryanLGH Medical Center West.

The three men, members of the same UNL fraternity, were returning to Lincoln from San Antonio, Texas at the time of the accident, reported to authorities by a truck driver around 3 a.m.

"At this point in time, I'm in shock," Kieper's father, Paul Kieper, said in an interview Tuesday.

"He was a bright young boy, a 4.0," Paul Kieper said. "He loved to be silly. He loved to debate."

Paul Kieper said his son graduated from North Platte High School in 2002. When Derek Kieper came to Lincoln for college, the elder Kieper moved here, too.

Derek Kieper played on the defensive line for the North Platte High School football team, his father said. At UNL, Derek took on five majors — history, psychology, economics, sociology and political science — and had plans to attend law school.

Last year, Derek attended a summer program in economics at Oxford University in England.

"He loved it," Paul Kieper said. "It was his first time with travel abroad."

Kade Pittman, a friend of Derek since seventh grade, said Derek was a true friend.

"He'd do anything for anybody," he said. "He was really funny, extremely intelligent. He'd tutor me in classes he didn't even take."

Pittman said he last saw Derek shortly before Derek headed off to Texas for Christmas break.

"It's really tragic," Pittman said. "He's really going to be missed."

Capt. Joe Lefler of the Lancaster County Sheriff's Office said Havermann was driving the Explorer east on the interstate near Northwest 48th Street when the vehicle went out of control on the ice-covered road. He said the vehicle travelled into the south ditch and rolled several times.

A truck driver headed in the same direction witnessed the accident and called 911, Lefler said. He said alcohol did not play a role in the accident, but he declined to discuss how fast the Explorer was travelling.

Derek, who was thrown from the vehicle, was not wearing a seat belt, Lefler said. He said Havermann and Uphoff were wearing seat belts at the time.

In a column written for the Daily Nebraskan in September, Derek attacked seat belt laws as intrusions on individual liberties and expensive to enforce.

"It is my choice what type of safety precautions I take," he wrote.

"There seems to be a die-hard group of non-wearers out there who simply do not wish to buckle up no matter what the government does. I belong to this group."

Erica Rogers, opinion page editor at the Daily Nebraskan, said Derek's brains and intensity would be missed. Kieper and Rogers had lively political debates, she said.

"He had a Republican focus on economic issues," she said. "He was aggressive. He was really intense.

"He was a very engaging student. I'm sure UNL will be at a loss."

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Old 01-19-2005, 11:52 PM
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This has the potential of really opening a can of worms...but I feel the need to throw in my two cents regardless. Now I completely see why people find it ridiculous to require someone to wear a seatbelt instead of leaving it up to the person. Their biggest argument seems to be a guy they know or someone an acquaintance knows, who was saved in an accident because they weren't wearing a seatbelt (being ejected as opposed to crushed, for instance). I can say they probably know ten other people who were saved by wearing their seatbelts. Regardless, maybe it shouldn't be anything more than a secondary offense, when stopped for something else.
One thing that really infuriates me, though, is a situation I came upon about two years ago. Right where I work, there is a Via-Duct I take to get home where all kinds of fender benders happen all the time, very rarely a serious accident. This time, a person had rear-ended someone else, nothing at all serious. But, the driver of the rear-ending car had to be taken to the hospital because of a head wound they got from hitting the windshield...something a few seconds buckling a seatbelt could've completely prevented. That made me so mad because what if an accident or situation of some sort where those emergency workers were needed came up that was under noone's control? Those EMTS, Paramedics, and COPs would be entirely unable to help in a more severe situation, and it was all because someone was too stubborn to buckle up. Now I believe it's a choice much as anyone does, but to see something so minor become something so much more, that really irks me.
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Old 01-20-2005, 01:00 PM
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One could argue that when people don't wear seat belts, they increase the cost of insurance, health care, emergency services, etc. that we all pay for.
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Old 01-20-2005, 01:39 PM
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Seat Belts and the Gummit

Understand I worked as a Firefighter/ Paramedic. I disagree with the seat belt laws...I also usually wear a seat belt. I really have seen all kinds of situations with seatbelts.. I also understand the reason for seatbelt laws. It's not for safety.......it's mostly about revenue. Every seat belt ticket here in Maryland is another 30 bucks in the states coffers. Also the insurance companies keep a check on their drivers...if they have more than one or two seatbelt violations..guess what?? More money to the insurance company or cancel the policy. Vast right wing conspiracy?? No just a way to get more tax money out of your pocket. That said....do seat belt save lives? Yes of course. Should it be compulsory to wear them? In my opinion...no The boy was right. His opinion killed him...but he was right! It should be an individuals choice. The government controls our lives too much as it is. I also remember when we had driving regulations. They were changed to laws(I remember the debates) so the state could criminalize the regulations so they could raise the amount of money charged for violations of the "laws". Also so they could criminalize some of the violations that were occuring(drunk driving is one example). Think of this..if you were driving down the road after consuming an alcoholic beverage or two and were stopped by an officer of the law...You could possibly be found guilty of a crime whereby you could lose the right to own a firearm,vote or hold political office. Any crime PUNISHABLE by more than a year in jail gets it done for ya. You don't have to receive the time...just be found guilty of the statute. I'm not saying right or wrong...just pointing out some things people don't understand about LAWS promulgated for "safety". Sorry Mr. G-man...but ya just can't legislate personal safety!!
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The government regulates personal safety all the time. Just try to wire your own house without the gov't telling you how to do it and inspecting it for your own safety. Try installing your own sewer system without them telling you how to do it so it doesn't affect your own safety. I'm afraid they're used to it and it's here to stay.

They've required us to wear seatbelts on airplanes so we don't get hurt for as long as anyone can remember and people don't complain. Many states require hunters to wear blaze orange for our own good so we don't get shot at. Most states require us to wear or at least have a life jacket while boating so we don't drown. These are some other examples of the gov't protecting us from hurting ourselves.

Taking the time to buckle up doesn't seem like much of a hardship to ask of drivers. I don't like government telling us what to do anymore than anyone else does, but really, let's learn to live with it. If you don't like it - then bounce your legislator out of office and replace them with someone that will take the law off the books. By the way, the government does own the roads. We're the government and the people we elected made these laws.

I don't think it should be a primary offense, unless it involves unbuckled children. In Minnesota it is not a chargeable event as far as insurance rating.

Like Skeet, I've responded to more serious accidents than I care to remember as a firefighter. If someone is seriously hurt or killed because they weren't buckled in it has a much, much bigger impact than just them hurting themselves. If you've ever heard & seen a family member react after an accident you'd know exactly what I mean. It's tough on the emergency personnel too.

I don't think the gov't really has our own safety in mind, I think it comes down to the dollars it costs society for the extra medical costs and survivor benefits caused by the increased severity of the injuries.
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