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Old 02-06-2005, 10:36 PM
bucktrack7 bucktrack7 is offline
 
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Scope choices for rem. 700 bdl in 7mm?

I am using a no frills Remington 700 bdl for whitetail and would like to know what scope to use to get the best accuracy.
My shots will all be with in 200 yds.
I am currently using a Simmons 44 mag. 4-12x44 and prefer not to have to adjust the front for focus.
Thanks for any advice,
Wes
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Old 02-06-2005, 11:23 PM
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Heck for distance in the ranges you are saying a 4X leupold or Burris would be fine....but i'd probably go with a 3x9X50 Bushnell Elite3200 because of the great light gathering ability, the price and the lifetime warranty. Or next I'd go for a Burris 3x9 Ballistic Plex.. for the same reasons. Price and lifetime warranty. Both are really nice clear scopes and the Busnell Elite has the rainguard on the lenses. It really works great.
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Old 02-06-2005, 11:29 PM
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I've had an older Bushnell Banner 4X12 on my Remington 700BDL in 7mm Rem. Mag. for about 10 years now, and it's served me well. However, I'm not a true believer in the quality of todays scopes. The Bushnells coming from China, the Sportview and the Sportsman, have given me real heartache. Neither survived its initial trip to the range. On one I had a double vertical reticule and didn't know which one to believe. The other one was knocked out of focus by the recoil of my first shot and went downhill from there. Tasco and Simmons ae real crapshoots. A Leupold would be nice, but realizing not everyone can afford a Leupold I'd probably go for a Weaver or Bushnell Elite. Just one mans opinion. Best wishes.

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Old 02-07-2005, 12:08 PM
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I have a 2x7x44 simmons on my 88 and like it the thing with adjustible objective is some guys like them that wear glasses.
I also have the simmons pro hunter in 2x7x 32 i have had this on my 7400 and have shot a few animals with it
leupold has some decent scopes in my area in the 3x9x40 starteing at 180 dollers.
wich is realy saying something becouse the simons 44 is going for 150.
I would go the 30 dollers more and you would have a scope that would hold value.
most glass dont hold any value on used guns unless u buy better glass and in the long run you will be glad
i too am in the market for new glass it looks like i will be going with a leupold or burris
my thing is i have yet to make up my mind as to if it will be a 3x9 or 2x7
look around you will find something and it wont brake the bank.
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Old 02-08-2005, 08:40 PM
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the caliber in my opion is wanting more than 9 power glass, but i think for your wants that the 3-9 x 40 vxII leo is one of the best options.

ive got two right now and both have seen hard use one on my 270wsm( saveing for more power here) and the other is on my little 270win.

the 3-9 has never let me down, and have always been very good hunting scopes. theyve takn all the abuse i can hash out and still stay clear and hold zero. i dont know that ive ever had to re zero a 3-9 leo after the initial site in. both scopes are dinged and scratched with all kinds of war wounds. i even submerged one while crossing a creek and fell i got soaked and the rifle went under.
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Old 02-09-2005, 12:58 AM
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Right now Natchez has Burris Fullfield II 3-9X40 scopes with the Ballistic Plex reticle for $170. I don't think you'll find a better scope for that money.

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Old 02-09-2005, 05:05 PM
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I've read great things about the Bushnell Elites. On the other
hand, the only criticism that I've read concerning the Elites
has to do with eye relief (www.shortmags.org). For
a rifle with "magnum" recoil, that might be a concern.

I recently purchased a Sightron SII 3-9x40 for just under
$200. I've read a number of favorable reviews on this
product, and it also carries a lifetime guarantee. Definitely
worth a look, IMHO.

Also, FWIW, I've read that the Leupold 3-9x40 scopes
are, for whatever reason, NOT exactly 3 to 9 power
magnification (reportedly 3.3x to 8.6x)! Does that really
make a difference? You decide.
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Old 02-09-2005, 05:34 PM
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srab, that power discrepancy is true of many scopes. I give credit to Leupold for telling you, where a lot of other makers don't.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:41 AM
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bought tte only leo scopes that are truely the power they say they are are the fixed power models. all the otheres vary slightly from whats advertised
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Old 02-10-2005, 11:29 AM
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Thumbs up Burris

What gd357 said. Best scope for the money bar none. Hard to beat their warranty too.
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Old 02-10-2005, 12:39 PM
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Buy the best scope you can reasonably afford.
Here's what I'd consider: Given that your shots are < 200 yards, a 2X7 variable will do. Lower power generally gives larger size/depth of field and longer eye relief. Look for one with 3" to 3.5" of eye relief to avoid getting hit by objective when shooting and promote quicker target acquisition.
Keep the objective bell size down to less than 44mm; preferably 40. That allows mounting closer to barrel , which enables quicker sight/target allignment and good cheek weld with stock, therefore, greater accuracy. A simple plex reticle will do. Avoid big heavy scopes if not necessary for fewer problems with stability, canting, scope movement in rings, screws loosening etc...not to mention poratility through cover.
Given your stated parameters, I'd go with a no frills Leupold, Burris or Nikon in that order. If lowest price is factor, all three now have models that cost around $200.
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Old 02-10-2005, 03:41 PM
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I appreciate all of the great information. I am going to check into the sightron as well as a few others but am leaning toward the leupold. I did not realize that lower power resulted in more eye relief. The 2x7 sounds like the ticket.
Thanks for the advice!
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Old 02-11-2005, 08:11 PM
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when i first got into rifles and guns in general my first scope purchase was 60 dollar tasco i think it was a 3-9x40.

i actualy got my my 60bucks worth out of the scope. it was mounted on my frist rifle, 270win. this combo took. 4 deer and an elk.

after 4 years of hunting it was time to retire the scope, scope body was all dinged. the site bell was pretty near busted off. this was actualy its retirement factor. broke it while packn out a buck i shot one year. on most acaasions i would have been pissed but i got my buck early in the morning broke the scope later. got home unbolted the scope and tossed it in the trash.

next scope on the rilfe was the leo variX II 3-9x40 that i bought used.

ounce getn this scope mounted and sited in i quickly realized id never go back to a lesser cheaper glass. the scope is just so much more crisp and clear compared to that old tasco i had.

i tried 2.8-10x44 simmons aetec for alittle while, the scope served duty on everything from 22lr to my 3006. when new it was ver crisp and clear considering it cost me 170.

but i did begin to have problems with it. it beagan to haze up and wouldnt adjust to my eye. finaly got rid of it cause i couldnt hardly shoot it. could barely see a 1" dot at 100yds.

the next scope worthy of mentioning is the 4-16x42 sightron i had for awhile. this was great scope or atleast i thought it was at first. i mounted it on my 2506. it had the milldot reticle that its power was moderate, 4 power for the close stuff and 16 everywhere else. not sure i ever adjusted the scope of of 16 power.

the scope begaun to either get to me or my eyes changed. it got to where i could never get the paralax to adjust so that the image was crisp and clear.

took this scope to the nearest sightron dealer and told them the problem. they took my old sigtron and grabbed a new one of the shelf no questions asked. i heard they did that with sigtron glass but never imagined it would be like that. youd think theryd be paper work or something involved, this isnt the cheapest scope on the shelf.

but as luck would have it my taste must have changed and i still not the crisp clear image i wanted, plus the scope started loose its zero while mountd on the 2506..

finaly i ended up getn rid of the scope to buddy of mine. told him the problem with it and that he could have it replaced slicker than snot. i lost a few bucks on it and he took it to the dealer abd got a new one. wich he hasnt had any problems with.

one thing that will make me try sigtron again is the warranty. it in my opion is second to none anywhere, even leupold.

so heres my story moveing on.
the scope that replaced my sightron is leupolds 4.5-14x40vxII. i again bought this scope used. the scope is crisp and as clear as a high mountain stream on a sunny day. it is my most avorite scope. its clear atr all ranges on all power setting and holds zero like no other. offcourse its mounted on my 2506.

sorry for the long winded story. i wanted to kinda back up how i got to wear im at. as far as running all leupolds goes.

Evan
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Old 03-03-2005, 01:23 PM
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I wold tell you to go purchase a Leupold 2 x 7 x 40 for your deer hunting or elk hunting needs. It is all the power you will need to make out and place that crosshair on the animal.

The 2 power will work great in the woods or dark timber of the mountains. Now at 7 power it give you a large image in which to focus on and hit the target. Leupold is tops in warranty!
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