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Old 07-06-2005, 07:54 AM
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GAS PRICE`s are going up I heard it this morning,...

Well I guess there`s some perks to working at a carry out ,...
Found out this morning from the regional manager that in this area(Upstate NY) gas prices could reach close to $3.00 a gal. by Saturday or even earlier.

Gas prices here now are at $2.29 a gal for the cheap stuff (not being funny here),and $2.51 a gal for the higher Octane stuff.

I asked my supervisor if he (the regional manager) meant that the higher octane was going to be around or close to $3.00 a gal.
She said no that the lower octane was going to be at approx. $3.00 a gal.

I am thinking of trading in my F150 for a quarter horse or horse or mule.
Better get my chaps out and cowboy boots as well.
Yippie KI YEA!!!!

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Old 07-06-2005, 07:58 AM
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This is going to hurt our economy and we are already feeling it. Our orders are down from previous years and it's only going to get worse. We can thank the media for lowering consumer confidence and spreading the seeds of worry.
I expect gas to hit $4 and maybe $5 per gallon.

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Old 07-06-2005, 08:12 AM
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Ur right Skinny, and ,......

It has been rumored that gas prices are just the tip of the iceberg.
It is gettin really scarey and hairy now.
The book of Revalations is truely coming to life before our very eyes.

I would start thinkin of better ways to get to and from wherever, and doing it with friends and family and co-workers to help ease the hurt that is going to be put upon us due to a president with no B _ _ _ S !! to get the job done in the middle east.

Those Arabes know they have us by the
B_ _ _ S , and there aint a dang thing we all can do about it.

Start prayin everyone,....this could be the start of a Revolution in the 21st century that we never wanted.

Wow !!! what a life huh,....one minute we are all talkin about huntin and the next we all might have to do it to survive,....I wonder how are those PETA`s going to survive?!

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Old 07-06-2005, 08:49 AM
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I knew it had ta be the media's fault that gas prices were high and going higher.....
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:46 AM
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I knew it had ta be the media's fault that gas prices were high and going higher.....
Jack, you might have something there, they really do subsist on sensationalism (or feel they have to). Oil futures are bought accordng to how the future market is predicted. Who knows, maybe the media does have some part of it.

Going back to my original thought, their publishing every single blip in the stock market and the speculation that follows along with "predictions" by the "experts" of how bad we are doing (and are going to do) just makes people tighten their wallets and pocketbooks more and more.

Which is why I feel they play a major role in how the public spends their money.

Good job.


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Old 07-06-2005, 10:57 AM
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I wish I was paying $2.50/gal for gas! Here it is $91.5/l which works out to about $3.46/gal (this is not taking in the difference in our money just for the ease of explaining it)

Whats worse, is that I live in the heart of oil country, I have a refinery less than 2 miles from my house and a huge (multi billion dollar) upgrader just out side of town, and we still pay some of the highest prices in Alberta!
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Old 07-06-2005, 12:11 PM
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Here's an example of oil futures for Winter being decided now:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...kets_oil_dc_19

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LONDON (Reuters) - Oil prices broke back above $60 a barrel on Wednesday, with a tropical storm in the oil-producing U.S. Gulf of Mexico compounding worries over refiners' ability to bolster pre-winter fuel supplies.

U.S. crude oil futures gained 60 cents to $60.19 a barrel and London Brent rose 52 cents to $58.81 a barrel.

"The hurricane threat has certainly raised people's fears of refiners struggling to produce enough products, particularly at a time when demand for gasoline is high," said Daniel Hynes, resource analyst at ANZ Institutional Banking.

Hedge fund investors are betting peak winter demand will stretch supplies, particularly of heating oil and other high-demand distillate fuels.

Tropical storm Cindy is posing a threat to oil infrastructure in the Gulf of Mexico, home to a quarter of U.S. oil and gas output. Tropical storm Dennis is also gathering strength in the Caribbean Sea.

The U.S. federal Minerals Management Service said 3 percent of daily Gulf oil and gas production had been shut as a precaution as energy companies evacuated some workers from platforms.

The U.S. National Hurricane Center in Miami said it was the earliest date on record for four named tropical storms to have formed in the Atlantic basin, underscoring predictions that the 2005 hurricane season could be unusually active.

Robust demand helped bolster the average retail price for U.S. gasoline to within a few cents of the all-time high and diesel fuel also hit a new record, the U.S. government said this week.

Oil market sentiment may turn even more bullish if the preliminary forecast on weekly U.S. crude stocks is proved correct. Stocks are expected to have fallen by 1.2 million barrels, according to a Reuters survey.

The U.S. Energy Information Administration releases its report for the week to July 1 on Thursday.

The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries last week suspended talk of increasing production by a further 500,000 bpd, a decision analysts said had limited impact in a market supported by refinery bottlenecks rather than a shortage of crude.

OPEC's president said last week the group could bring on the extra production if prices rose back to $60 a barrel.

Despite signs that U.S. demand is running strong, No. 2 oil consumer China has been showing signs of weaker-than-expected growth this year, data has shown.

Major Chinese refiners, who have been exporting unusually large volumes of gasoline and diesel this year, have cut back operating rates in July as soaring crude costs turn their margins negative for low, state-set domestic retail sales.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:36 PM
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Skinny, I got a feeling that what has the public's mind on gas prices is stopping at the gas station and filling up, not reading the paper.
When a $20 used to fill the tank 2 years ago, and now it's nearly a $50, people notice, and the media has nothing to do with it.
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:28 PM
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It costs 70-80 to fill my truck up. That does bite, hard. And, were not in a traditionally high area, not even close.

Wolvie, you may be right, but I would be surprised. Im not saying I dont believe in the bible. I do. But, signs of the end of times are always coming. Always have. I remember in the early 70s, the preacher standing and pounding on the pulpit, preaching that the end of times were near. The highjackings of airplanes, wars and rumors of wars, the leader of Iran was the anti-christ, the economy was in the pits, ect..... I followed it right along, scared to death. Then my grandpa told me not to worry too much. It was the same when he was a kid, just different players. Hitler, japs, depression, ect....

Ive actually thought about it alot. Another thing he told me then, sticks with me. It will come in the twinkling of an eye and you will know not the time or day.

Revelations? Possible, but I surely doubt it......

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Old 07-08-2005, 10:07 AM
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here in kaliphornia, we're near the $3.00 per gallon mark already and have been for a while.

i saw an interview with an oil corp CEO on the fox news "business" segment recently and he openly said "don't be surprised to see gasoline at $3.00 per gallon before the end of the year."

i believe what was said earlier in this thread ... that $5.00 per gallon is the oil industries goal ...

i also heard the CEO of mobil (?) in an interview say "we are entitled to a profit" ... that profit was something over $11 billion if i remember what he said correctly.

of course it will afffect the ecomomy but that's not all bad when you think about it ... it has already begun to slow down the building and developing here in the rural area where i live. that $3.00 per gallon is being passed onto the consumer and the consumer is reaching the point of "sorry, can't afford it ..." we're now seeing the $500,000.00 houses sit vacant ...

i know for a fact, the high cost of fuel has affected MY 'economy'.
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Old 07-08-2005, 10:31 AM
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In my job, I have no choice but to drive. I put approx 40k miles per year on. And, with my F250 Diesel, it costs anywhere from $60 to $70 dollars, sometimes more, to fill er up, almost daily, it seems anyway. That stings some.

I gotta have a truck, pulling my camper when we want to go somewhere, bass boat and hunting. I tried buying a little cheap car that got 30 mpg, but it was just costing more. It seems it should have saved me, but by the time you recognize the savings, the car was going to be worn out. Im better off driving my truck and not gettin on it much, it will get 16-19 mpg if I drive it right......

As for the economy, it will effect it. People make x number of dollars. People are reliant on fuel to get to work to make those dollars. If it costs more to get there and back, that leaves less dollars for luxuries, vacations, more expensive food, eating out, new houses, ect..... Its not going to help anyone. Pretty simple. If Joe Blows Bar and Grill isnt getting as much business because people are spending money on fuel instead of eating and drinking in his place, then hes gonna lay off his employees as needed. Cant be good.

For my business, I have noticed that downturns in economy help in the short term, sad as it is, but not the long term. In the short term, some people out of work and desperate will steal or sell drugs to make ends meet. They get arrested and it boosts our business. But, as the economy gets worse, mom and dad and friends dont have the money to get them out anymore, so it goes down again. And the jails fill up.

See what happens.

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Old 07-09-2005, 10:10 AM
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*UPDATE* in Upstate NY

Gas prices in my area are now at $2.45 a gal for Reg unleaded, and $2.70 a gal. for the Super Unleaded stuff.

Prices are to stay on a trend upward of .6 cents to ..11 cents through the next couple to few weeks.
Partly due to the Hurricaine (Dennis the Menace), and also the war in the middle east.
Also to note,...the media here hasnt printed much on the soring gas price surges ,...they are printing more about people coming up lost and or found and about a local POND (I call it a lake or was one), dam that had broke.

I thought I would update everyone for the area I am in so if you plan to come this way you`ll know what to expect as far as gas prices.

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Old 07-09-2005, 07:57 PM
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Reg. gas went to $2.39 yesterday, jumped 14 cents a gallon in one leap. After reading some of the other posts I won't complain, at least here.
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What I have read is that if everybody in the US bought a car that got about 7 miles per gallon better gas mileage, we would have absolutely no reliance on the Arab nations. If a lot of people made their homes energy efficient, that would help us out too.

Problem is that nobody wants to invest the money to do so, and with the rat race that we have (i.e., bigger is better) everybody wants the SUV like the guy next door.

When I went to Italy 4 years ago, people were driving cars that sat only 2 or 3 people and the cars were extremely small and good on gas. The Toyota Prius gets 55 mpg and there are other hybrids out there. If people would switch to hybrids or alternative fuel vehicles, we wouldn't be having this problem with gas and we could tell the Arab nations to pee up a rope.

Problem is, nobody wants to do it. Like I have been telling my wife of a day, life is full of problems and we just need to work out a solution. Gas is high, so there are several options:

1. Find a job closer to home
2. Get a car with better gas mileage
3. Buy a motorcycle
4. Buy a bicycle

When I was younger (i.e., too young to drive), I rode my bike 10 miles each way to a bike shop to work.

Right there, the Chinese have a step up on us. Plenty of them rides bikes and are in much better shape than Americans. We have an obesity problem because people are used to an easy life.

Let's all stop complaining about everything, put our heads down, and push on. If you have the money, spend it. If you do not have the money, find an alternative.

To think that I am a pessimist.

As far as spending is concerned, I got married last night and we recouped over 50% of the cost of the reception in monetary gifts, not to mention the items that we received from our registry. So, the economy cannot be doing too bad.
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Old 07-10-2005, 06:30 PM
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Well I got 3 out of 4 Fabs,....lol

I have done and have basically 3 out of the 4 items.

I work 1 block from the house,...
I have a small car that gets more then 7 miles to the gal and one that gets 19 miles to the gal in the city.
And I have a brand new 15 speed mountain bike.

As for a motorcycle,....I cant afford one of them ,....those are becoming the caddys of vechicles now.

As for complaining about the gas prices and stuff,....I feel that everyone needs to vent, and this is probly the only real way of doing that ,...I think most people complain because they want to see if they are the only ones complaining about whatever.
Which is kewl to me,...cause I do it.

It`s sort of a sounding off, and survey issue in our minds.
I am glad to see that there are more people thinking like me and feeling the way I do.
Now I dont feel alone in my complaints and so on.

Life is going to get harder and more expensive,as we go,...but as I have always said we all need to work together and harder to keep what we have or we are going to lose it,...
Voting in the right people is one thing but we ALL need to back them and help them know what we ALL want.

Standing against those that try to oppress us,...is the only way we will ever keep or gain what we have and will have.

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