No more going to the checkin station in Maryland

DaMadman · #1 07-12-2005, 11:32 AM

All deer and turkey Check-Ins will be done over the phone or via the internet.

Wham Bam Thank You Ma'am

http://www.dnr.state.md.us/huntersgu...2006_guide.pdf

Swift · #2 07-12-2005, 01:25 PM

Good for you. Now if PA could get off their arse and out from under the rock.

DaMadman · #3 07-12-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Swift
Good for you. Now if PA could get off their arse and out from under the rock.

I thought PA. already had call-in deer checking? must have been somewhere else..... NewYork Maybe?

boogercounty · #4 07-12-2005, 10:48 PM

...Missouri announced just a few days ago, that check stations are now a thing of the past.

This past Spring Turkey Season, we could use Tele-Chek, or go to a check station. Now, it's only Tele-Chek, or on the Internet.

They stated that a Conservation Agent had to spend approximately 40 hours per week during Deer or Turkey Season checking on the check stations. This new method of checking game will enable the agent to spend more time in the field, and following up on complaints.

It will reduce the "Bragging Rights" exposure for a lot of people, who have killed a nice buck or gobbler.

But, then again, if you killed a button buck or a jake, you won't have to endure the looks of pity, or hear the snickers of the ones who killed a bigger trophy than yours.

gd357 · #5 07-13-2005, 01:36 AM

I have mixed feelings about this. It would definitely be easier to check in a deer or turkey, but this is an open invitation for those who don't always abide by the regulations to do so with greater ease. Maybe I'm way off here, maybe not.

gd

Wolvie · #6 07-13-2005, 08:38 AM

I see checkin stations as probly the best way to keep track of deer herds and kills, and also keep "certain" hunters in "Check".
Pardon the pund.

I think this is one bad idea due to those facts will be harnful in the long run.
I would say that most (if not all of us) are honest and ethicial hunters, but i am sorry to say that there are alot of others out there who are not.
And that is where the "check Stations" are a really good thing.

I am totally behind DNR and DEC in having these stations in place,.and mostly the reason why states decide to close these "Stations" is because they dont want to pay their officers extra to check on these stations and so on.

I would rather on opening day or week ,to visit these stations and see what is being taken and hear the stories of how those lucky and hard working hunters got that prize rack or that big doe,
That`s just me,...and I feel it is more smarter to have these stations in place for the simple fact that it helps keep better "INVENTORY" of what is being taken and so on.and also these stations help deter those who think of "poaching".

And to answer someones post earlier, NY is also one state that has what I call the "Honor check in Line".

It would be honorable,...if there wasn`t so many "Dis-Honorables" around.

Later ALL
SAFE HUNTIN~

DaMadman · #7 07-13-2005, 10:19 AM

OK first off I have to say that I really enjoyed going to the checkin station at lunchtime and seeing what people bagged also but How in the heck can anyone say this is going to make it easier for someone to NOT check in a deer. In Maryland at least you still get a confirmation # and have to fill out a big game tag, the only difference is that instead of having to drag the deer up the road 10 mile to a checkin station you can take it straight home, hang it up and call a phone number to check it in.

I think people will be way MORE likely to check in a deer or turkey if they do not have to haul it up the road.

Just one "for instance" I shoot a deer right at sunset on a saturday evening. I have to take that deer home, hang it for the night and then take it back down and take it to the checking station check it in and then take it back home and re-hang it Sunday.

With the new checkin by phone/internet, I hang it up and call it in or go online, check it in and leave it hung in the barn. Much easier IMHO.

Wolvie · #8 07-13-2005, 03:38 PM

That is you and me,...not the other Million or so hunters,.....
Let`s look at it this way,....
In 2005 you probly filled your tag,...in 2006 you no longer "Haul" your deer ot turkey to a "Check Station", instead you take it home and hang it,...and call from home to let the DEC or DNR know you made a harvest,....LEGALLY.

But let`s say that there is 350,000 more hunters who do that as well,....but there`s let`s say 50,000 more who dont?!
Now in 2007 you arent seeing the deer activity you seen the past 2 years,...and then 2008 comes up and now deer are rarely even seen,....Now do u get what I am talking about?
NY has that problem,.....over hunting cause there are those who don`t hunt legally or ethicially.And now they dont have to "Haul" there harvest to a "Check Station", instead they can "Haul" it home and not make the call.

And before it is even said,...not everyone is into mounting their heads,..you can purchase a antler mounting kit for alot less then having a textadermist do the mounting and having a number to show that it was a legal kill.

This is why I oppose such methods ,they are unethicial, and very bias as to the hunter who feels that now he can hunt all he wants until ,.whenever!

I mean while the DEC and or the DNR are at it , why not just allow everyone to hunt whenever,wherever, for however long they want?!

There has to be guide lines, and rules,..if the guide lines are not in place,..then rules are just words and nothing more.
As I have said before not everyone is an unethical or should I say poacher,..but why make it easier for those that are?!!

I can only say this,...in closing,...I hope that the "Honor System" works in Maryland,..and or anyother state considering that option,...but I can tell you all this,..NY is paying for it big time,..I am talking about NY hunters,...and yes the deer herd itself.

If you don`t believe ,.talk to some public land hunters,not lease land hunters,....but then again ask them if the deer herd in NY is shrinking,...I think you`ll change your views,..and in a year or 2 ,..you will be made to change your views due to the simple fact that you won`t enjoy hunting as much if you don`t have anything to hunt.

Later ALL
SAFE HUNTIN~

Swift · #9 07-13-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by DaMadman
I thought PA. already had call-in deer checking? must have been somewhere else..... NewYork Maybe?

Ain't PA

Swift · #10 07-13-2005, 08:33 PM

Wolvie, it's all the honor system, either ya report by whatever system is in place or ya don't.

DaMadman · #11 07-14-2005, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wolvie
That is you and me,...not the other Million or so hunters,.....
Let`s look at it this way,....
In 2005 you probly filled your tag,...in 2006 you no longer "Haul" your deer ot turkey to a "Check Station", instead you take it home and hang it,...and call from home to let the DEC or DNR know you made a harvest,....LEGALLY.

But let`s say that there is 350,000 more hunters who do that as well,....but there`s let`s say 50,000 more who dont?!
Now in 2007 you arent seeing the deer activity you seen the past 2 years,...and then 2008 comes up and now deer are rarely even seen,....Now do u get what I am talking about?
NY has that problem,.....over hunting cause there are those who don`t hunt legally or ethicially.And now they dont have to "Haul" there harvest to a "Check Station", instead they can "Haul" it home and not make the call.

And before it is even said,...not everyone is into mounting their heads,..you can purchase a antler mounting kit for alot less then having a textadermist do the mounting and having a number to show that it was a legal kill.

This is why I oppose such methods ,they are unethicial, and very bias as to the hunter who feels that now he can hunt all he wants until ,.whenever!

I mean while the DEC and or the DNR are at it , why not just allow everyone to hunt whenever,wherever, for however long they want?!

There has to be guide lines, and rules,..if the guide lines are not in place,..then rules are just words and nothing more.
As I have said before not everyone is an unethical or should I say poacher,..but why make it easier for those that are?!!

I can only say this,...in closing,...I hope that the "Honor System" works in Maryland,..and or anyother state considering that option,...but I can tell you all this,..NY is paying for it big time,..I am talking about NY hunters,...and yes the deer herd itself.

If you don`t believe ,.talk to some public land hunters,not lease land hunters,....but then again ask them if the deer herd in NY is shrinking,...I think you`ll change your views,..and in a year or 2 ,..you will be made to change your views due to the simple fact that you won`t enjoy hunting as much if you don`t have anything to hunt.

Later ALL
SAFE HUNTIN~

you are not making any sense?? why is it easier for someone to break the law with the new system. If ANYONE shoots a deer it is still the honor system as to whether or not they check it in. Whether someone has to go to a checking station or phone it in and get a confirmation # doesn't make a difference it is still on the honor system. If someone don't want to do it they are not going to check it in, and if you get caught with an unchecked deer the penalty is still the same. I think that would be a more likely deterrant. make the penalty for not checking it in a stiffer fine or lose your hunting priveleges for a longer period or something to that affect.

If someone shoots a deer I can almost say for certain that the person is going to be MORE likely to check it in the less hassle it is to do so.

In Maryland I am allowed to shoot 12 deer with the shotgun 10 antlerless and 2 antlered (not that I would shoot that many) but do you think me or anyone else is going to want to run to the checkin station for everyone of those deer or do you think I would be more likely to call it in and get my confirmation #?

Really with the amount of overpopulation of the deer heard in Maryland I don't think the DNR really cares one way or the other as long as the hunters are shooting the deer and helping to get the population back to a reasonable level. But I do know with being able to shoot that many LEGALLY and with the new call in program to check a deer in, I know a "a few" people that probably would not have bother to check the deer in at a checkin station but they are more than happy to pick up the phone and call it in or logon to the net and fill out a form.

It's just like 10-15 years ago when Maryland had a one (1) deer limit a LOT of people didn't check in the deer they shot because they would take the whole week of deer season off from work and if they shot a deer the first day or two, then their hunting was over. once they put a multi deer bag limit into affect those people started checking in their deer because they didn't have to quit hunting after they checked in the first one, and most of them only killed one deer a year anyway.

Idunno I personally just can't see a down side to making it EASIR to check a deer in. between hauling a 140 pound deer in and out of my truck at the checkin station or taking it home and hanging it 1 time, making a phoen call or logging onto the internet to fill out a form. I know which I prefer to do and I know which one would make more more likely to check the deer in, and it isn't hauling the deer to a checkin station

Wolvie · #12 07-14-2005, 07:17 PM

I have seen and heard certain people here in this state (NY) , who have killed a deer and or turkey and didnt call to report it.

Now just to let ya know, I did report them, and gave all the info I had to the DEC,...but I see they are still hunting, and hunting illegally.
Of course now they arent so forth coming about their bragging of be A - HOLES and killin everything in sight.

I know it is much easier to call or get online,...but as I said these are my views and I dont see it being of any benefit to hunters or DECs Or DNRs, to have the right numbers of what has been harvested,....Ny has that problem now,...EXAMPLE: Last year (about this time), The NYDEC had stated that the 2004/2005 season was going to produce record deer kills,..and that there was 100 deer per square mile.
NOT!!!!!
When it came to the Nitty Gritty,..and the truth came out,..alot of hunters where highly ticked off that the deer numbers were so low and that at the end of the season there wasnt a record deer kill instead there was a record number of complaints and upset hunters.
Alot of tags were not filled and I feel that was partly due to the poor recordings of deer being reported killed and alot that werent reported taken.
The honor system doesnt work here, and I dont see it working in any state.
I do however wish any state that adopts that system all the best.But remember in a few years or so or even less,..Wolvie told ya so.

Again I would like to remind everyone that I believe in seeing is believing,...
I know I dont make any sense,....but then again we`re not dealing with sense here,....since we arent,...deer numbers will fall,...hunters will become more upset,..and tags will not be filled in the coming years,...then again all I can say ,...I told ya so.

Later ALL
SAFE HUNTIN~

DaMadman · #13 07-15-2005, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wolvie
I have seen and heard certain people here in this state (NY) , who have killed a deer and or turkey and didnt call to report it.

Now just to let ya know, I did report them, and gave all the info I had to the DEC,...but I see they are still hunting, and hunting illegally.
Of course now they arent so forth coming about their bragging of be A - HOLES and killin everything in sight.

I know it is much easier to call or get online,...but as I said these are my views and I dont see it being of any benefit to hunters or DECs Or DNRs, to have the right numbers of what has been harvested,....Ny has that problem now,...EXAMPLE: Last year (about this time), The NYDEC had stated that the 2004/2005 season was going to produce record deer kills,..and that there was 100 deer per square mile.
NOT!!!!!
When it came to the Nitty Gritty,..and the truth came out,..alot of hunters where highly ticked off that the deer numbers were so low and that at the end of the season there wasnt a record deer kill instead there was a record number of complaints and upset hunters.
Alot of tags were not filled and I feel that was partly due to the poor recordings of deer being reported killed and alot that werent reported taken.
The honor system doesnt work here, and I dont see it working in any state.
I do however wish any state that adopts that system all the best.But remember in a few years or so or even less,..Wolvie told ya so.

Again I would like to remind everyone that I believe in seeing is believing,...
I know I dont make any sense,....but then again we`re not dealing with sense here,....since we arent,...deer numbers will fall,...hunters will become more upset,..and tags will not be filled in the coming years,...then again all I can say ,...I told ya so.

Later ALL
SAFE HUNTIN~

OK last thing I am going to say on this then I am going to totally drop it and not bring it back up.

You are saying the HONOR SYSTEM doen't work where you are. OK, I'll give you that... Taking a deer to the checkin station is "THE HONOR SYSTEM" If a person is the type person that isn't going to call in and report a deer or turkey they killed then guess what...... They sure as heck ain't going to drive there sorry butt to the checkin station and check the deer in that way.

I will totally agree with you when you say that there are a LOT of deer killed that do NOT get checked in, but those people are NOT going to check them in no matter what system is in place. So why would you punish all the other good people that DO want to check their deer in and be legal?

Unfortunatly there is NO way to FORCE someone that kills a deer to check it in, whether they check it in over the phone or at a station. Unless of course you hire a few thousand DNR police to scour the woods for hunters with dead deer and check them in on the spot.

this concludes my opinion and posting on this subject Thank You

Wolvie · #14 07-17-2005, 12:03 PM

DaMadman,...I am sure where you are at ,..there are plenty of deer and deer loving and God fearin men and women,...

But lets get into a world I would like to call REALITY,......

Calling isnt nowhere near to anything like a checking station,...so to say who or who wouldnt go is totally a single persons thoughts,.....I would rather go to a checking station and I would rather have everyone and anyone that kills a deer or turkey or other big game animal also go to the checking stations.

Checking stations are not placed far enough out of the way ,.... in fact most mom & pops shops do the "Checking" in of the harvested animals.
Now this may not be the fact in your area or state,...(Maryland right?), and if that is the case,..Maryland lolol,...ok ,...if you were to blink you would be in and out of the state in about that time or a little more.
So Maryland probly could fit what?,.......? 4 Checking Stations,...and it would take what 10 minutes to get to one ?!
I just dont see how any state can allow to let the deer and other animal (big game), populations dwindle,...and not be able to have some type "recording" that is more sound,....and the phone in and the online thing aint it.!!!

But it looks like your done posting on this,....but I dont see the Phone in or online HONOR SYSTEM working in ANY State for any reason,....Its the stupidist thing I`ve ever heard of,...well not the stupidist,..but it ranks purty high on the stupid meter!

Hey why the states are at it,..let have a call in system to buy groceries and hell lets put one in place for banking,.....I am sure theres HONOR in most and we wont go under and become a poor country in lets say what? ,.......a day or 2.
Its ok to have a dream Bro,....but so far I see NIGHTMARES ,......
This is yours and my personal interest, and what we would like to see,...so that is only 2 of us,......I`d like to see what about 1,000,000 other hunters have to say,...and think.

Later ALL
SAFE HUNTIN~

Aye Bro ,...I wasnt being mean,....just venting,....gotta love ya bro,....Later

fabsroman · #15 07-18-2005, 07:50 PM

I didn't read all the posts, but I agree with DaMadman about making it easier for people to check deer. I know people that do not check deer because it is out of the way for them. Heck, it is out of the way for me too because there aren't a ton of checkin stations where I hunt. I would love to check my deer in by internet or phone.

I check all my waterfowl bands in on the internet instread of calling the number and waiting on hold. It is much quicker and easier for me that way. I would probably still do it by phone if that was the only way possible, but I wouldn't like it as much.

As far as requiring the checking of deer at checkin stations, there are a million ways around it. People cut the deer up and put it in a cooler, etc just to avoid having to drive the additional 30 minutes.

Maryland has so many deer and we are allowed to kill a ton, that it really shouldn't matter whether we check them in at home or on the road.