Nugent 1; French 0

[Rocky Raab]

Ted Nugent, a heavy metal guitar legend and devoted (bow) hunter,
was being interviewed by a French journalist. Eventually, the conversation
turned to his love of outdoor pursuits. The journalist asked, "What do you
think the last thought is in the head of a deer before you shoot it? Is it,
"Are you my friend?" or maybe "Are you the one who killed my brother?"

Nugent replied, "They aren't capable of that kind of thinking. All they care
about is, What am I going to eat next? Who am I going to screw next? and,
Can I run fast enough to get away? They are very much like the French
in that."

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It's TRUE, says Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/nugent.asp

[Tater]

The Motor City Madman strikes again

[rickjordan]

I love the Nuge Man!

[fabsroman]

That is utterly hilarious. I had to buy new bike pedals today, and was looking at the Look brand like I bought 20 years ago. Problem is that I saw "Made in France" stamped on the pedals. Wish there was something at the shop made in the USA, but settled for something made in Taiwan that was $40 less than the Look pedals.

Lately, I have been paying attention to where things are made. Decided against buying Gap jeans because they were made outside the US. Finally settled on Tommy Hilfiger at an outlet store because they were made in Mexico with fabric from the US. Best I could do while in the Outer Banks.

[Allen]

He always says whats on his mind

[BILLY D.]

the french aren't all buttheads. my wife and i absolutely adored the cities of nancy and lyon. and the southern french country side is gorgeous especially as you travel towards italy and the riviera. the alps there are spectacular.

if one cares to remember it was the french who gave us battle tactics and sent her navy to aid us during our revolution. we'd have been sol without them. the germans, and poles also sent help.

sides that there wines are great. not as good as german mosel wines though. they are to kill for.

i don't boycott anything french. fact is i don't have a problem with most of the european countries. their really not that far from us and they like to run up and try to pee on the big dog once in awhile. but in their hearts they know who the big dog is, and respect him.

[fabsroman]

That is true, the French did help us win the Revolutionary War, but thngs change over 200+ years. Just because somebody helped me 10 years ago doesn't mean I should like him when he stabs me in the back 9 years later (i.e., a year ago). Countries change over time. Their politics change, their people change, their technology changes, etc. 60+ years ago, we were at war with Japan. After destroying them we helped them rebuild and then they kicked our rear in trade. I am still pretty mad that none of the domestic car makers have anything that gets 40+ mpg.

I am working on building a new road bike and have thought about making it from 100% American parts/frame. Problem is that the American parts/frame are few and far between, they cost just as much or more than the Italian parts/frame, and they aren't better than the Italian parts/frame. I refuse to have any Japanese parts on the bike.

I follow the Tour de France every year, and the countryside is utterly amazing. Same thing goes for Italy and Switzerland. Yeah, France has good wine, but so does California and Italy. Maybe not quite as good as France, but good enough such that anybody but a wine purist would ever know the difference. My favorite wine, a Riesling, comes from Germany, but I have had some pretty good ones that come from California.

My dad has despised the French as long as I can remember. 9/11 just added fuel to the fire for him. I believe he thinks the people are snotty/stuck up. They hated to have an American (i.e., Greg LeMond) win the Tour de France, but they finally ended up liking Lance. Another American stands a good shot at winning the tour this year.

[Jack]

" I am still pretty mad that none of the domestic car makers have anything that gets 40+ mpg"
And who's fault is that?

[gd357]

Gotta admire Uncle Ted for always speaking his mind. As for the French, I had a friend who was recently in Iraq, and they found a rather large cache of weapons and explosives that were marked as French. As for the general state of affairs in France, or Europe as a whole - there are good apples in every barrel, but it's getting harder and harder to find them in the socialist political climes that are over-riding the common sense of most people. France may have helped us in our war for independence, but we're a lot closer to the U.K. than we are to France these days.

gd

[BILLY D.]

hey fabs

if you want a really good wine try the eis baren auslesse mosel wines. thieir vinyards are in the moselle river valley. auslesse means late picked grapes and eis baren means they have benn slighty nipped with frost and they are at their sweetest.

however when you check the price tag make sure you seated. this ain't thunderbird or mad dog were talking about here.

old poem:

whats the word,
thunderbird

whats the reason,
da' grapes is in season.

whats the price,
30 twice.

that poem came from the 'hood when i was a kid.

[BILLY D.]

it was always a mystery to me why the british, french, dutch, italian and spanish who had such powerful navies and had so many colonies went the way of the dodo.

were the colonies such a drain on their economy they couldn't afford to keep them up or what? it was nothing for those countries to find out about a spice they wanted that was located in another country they would go in kick the crap out of the locals and take what they wanted for as long as they wanted and then leave if they wanted.

ah for the swashbuckling days of old. the only survivors seem to be the spanish, they are flourishing in this hemisphere and multplying like rabbits.

[BILLY D.]

Originally posted by Jack
" I am still pretty mad that none of the domestic car makers have anything that gets 40+ mpg"
And who's fault is that?

jack

when there is an insurrection in this country when gas gets to be $5 a gallon and one of the big? 3 gets burned to the ground you might see one.

it always confused me why we can produce fairly emission free auto but we just "can't" or wont put out a vehicle that gets good mileage. i'm no engineer but is that such a difficult project?

no i don't expect a vehicle that gets good mileage to go from 0>60 mph in 2 seconds. or is that perhaps where the problem lies. we americans like fast cars thats for sure. as a kid i don't remember one conversation with my contemparies where anybody said the got xxmiles per gallon. it was always who could turn the quarter in 12 seconds or less.

and fabs, if you can show me how to get 10 bales of hay and four bags of food supplement in one of thse prius's i'll be glad to buy one.

sure would cut down on my expenses.

[Rocky Raab]

Hell, American cars are so underpowered now that half of the ones I see need a boat or a trailer to push 'em!

[Wahnie]

Haha, so true. Go Ted. But he is in no way "Heavy Metal".

[fabsroman]

Yeah, the American cars are lacking in the power department too.

One of the issues with better gas mileage cars is that Americans want speed out of their vehicles. My brother bought the Trailblazer SS and he gets 12 mpg. I have a hard time swallowing 16 mpg out of my truck, and I have a car that I can also use.

Billy, I hear you about hauling and towing, but GM does make a 1500 series pickup that is a hybrid. However, I haven't really checked out the merits of it yet. At the end of the day, if everybody that had to commute to and from work, without heavy tools or machinery, were to buy something that got great gas mileage, we could tell the arabs to go you know where.

It just seems as though the domestic companies are always playing catch up with the Japanese companies. In the 80's the Japanese companies came out with the first gas saving cars, and then we followed. Now, the Japanese have come out with really good hybrid cars and the Americans are trying to catch up.

Does anybody remember the gas mileage of the first tiny little Civics? Were those anywhere around 60 mpg?

Wondering about what happened to the European countries with colonies? What happened to Rome? What happened to the USSR?

I am wondering if during my lifetime people will be saying "What happened to the USA?".