Ranting of an Infadel

[jon lynn]

I know I'm harping on this, but this really chaps my hide:

The cover of the Nov. 27th Stars & Stripes(European), a picture is showing a Turkish protest over the Popes visit to Turkey, (first sign of tolerance), then in the picture a woman holds a poster in english: "Jesus is not the son of God. He is a Prophet of Islam" (tolerance squared).

Just because of that poster, using their mentality, shouldn't we break out in to protest, storm the embassy and counsulates? Burn flags, and voice death threats, claiming "They must be punished for offending us!"

Naw.........we just sit back and take it up the wazooski, yet again, and respect the PEACEFUL and TOLERANT Muslem religon


ON ANOTHER NOTE............this Aljazeera news channel. They got a lot of people on staff, for example Riz Khan from CNN, David Frost from BBC, and a slew of non famous people I do recognise from US and European news stations.............they are reporting from the dark side. I sat to watch one afternoon, and boy was that a lopsided reporting system.
I always accused FOX of being only Republican, and CBS of being Democrat, but these guys are "Poor heros of the revolution" As in Detainees at Guantanimo.
Aljazeera is on the air world wide, spreading the word of anti-Western values, using bling (money hungry?) Western reporters, I fear we are going to be in for it soon.................

[scalerman]

One thing I have yet to hear from any of the "leadership" of the Muslim religion is a denouncement of all of the violence and bloodshed. If Islam is so peaceful then why isn't the leadership taking the stance that this is unacceptable behaviour? One can only conclude that this behaviour is acceptable and we can expect that it will continue for some time to come. I do know however that Jesus died for the Muslims as well and that more and more Muslims are coming to know Him as their Saviour. This is the answer that will bring all of this nonsense to an end.

[Tall Shadow]

Originally posted by scalerman
One thing I have yet to hear from any of the "leadership" of the Muslim religion is a denouncement of all of the violence and bloodshed. If Islam is so peaceful then why isn't the leadership taking the stance that this is unacceptable behaviour? One can only conclude that this behaviour is acceptable and we can expect that it will continue for some time to come. I do know however that Jesus died for the Muslims as well and that more and more Muslims are coming to know Him as their Saviour. This is the answer that will bring all of this nonsense to an end.

Unfortunately, what one hears said to the western press, and therefore, what is reported in our western news, by the ROP (Religion of Peace) leadership.... Is 180 degrees out from what is said by the same people on their own airwaves, and in their own press releases.

One only has to look at the dichotomy of their two actions, to see their true intentions.....and I'll give you a hint...It ain't very peaceful!

But the "Sheep" here, and abroad will listen...and believe them....untill it's too late.


And I hate to be the one who has to say this to ya scalerman, but.... They don't want to know your religious beliefs beyond, "Are you Muslim?" + "Will You convert or Die?" (Or die fighting back.)

Those are your choices...pick one.

I've made my choice.

Tall Shadow

[L. Cooper]

Just want to point out that Christ is, in fact, one of the prophets of Islam.

[scalerman]

While the Islamic people may see Jesus as a prophet He was so much more. The Jewish religion recognizes that there was something special about Jesus as well. It is not until He is recognized for who He is and why His life and death and most significantly His ressurection are important to the entire human race that we will be able to have any realistic dialogue. This is my opinion, I know that it may not be popular with everyone but one of the great things about living where we do is that I am free to express my opinion. I know that there are still places on earth where I would be subject to death for expressing what I have just shared with you. Thank you for the freedom to do so.

[Tall Shadow]

Originally posted by scalerman
While the Islamic people may see Jesus as a prophet He was so much more. The Jewish religion recognizes that there was something special about Jesus as well. It is not until He is recognized for who He is and why His life and death and most significantly His ressurection are important to the entire human race that we will be able to have any realistic dialogue. This is my opinion, I know that it may not be popular with everyone but one of the great things about living where we do is that I am free to express my opinion. I know that there are still places on earth where I would be subject to death for expressing what I have just shared with you. Thank you for the freedom to do so.

I understand your comments scalerman, but what you are waiting for Will NEVER happen!

The "Religion of Peace" and it's followers, are not interested in tolerance, meeting Us "Half-way", or there being ANY other way/religion, but Their way/religion.

Thinking that there is somehow going to be a "Dialog" between "Us" and "Them", after they "see" their "Foolishness", or their misjudgment of Us...is foolish.

Tall Shadow

[denton]

No, Islam really IS the religion of peace.

If they get their way, the world will be converted and full of sheeple who don't dare question the authority of Islamic leaders. That will create a very peaceful, fully totalitarian world. It's just not a world that most of us want to live in.

The current war between Islam and the western world has nothing whatever to do with anything the western world has ever done. It has only to do with what very wicked leaders want, and can induce people to get for them.

[Valigator]

Thats why you do not let a Muslim into power here, its not like the old days when Mohammed Ali converted...we have to take a stand...you heard about the congressman wanting to be in with the Koran right? What crap....look I am trying my best to be a docile understanding unbiased human being...but the more I read about that the more I think their idiots.....and the more I think I have the right to dtand up and say no....but I wonder, I am nasty at times I dont look at the big picture...ask Fabs...I gotta temper on me that the devil cant compete with.....sometimes ya just gotta stand up and say no...but that is really what America is not about, we are suppose to be an example for the world, quite frankly, my temper wont let me be that....but I am not so sure I am doing the right thing....oh what a dilemmna...dont feel like spell checking...

[Tall Shadow]

Not to worry, Val! (I hope it's OK for me, to call you Val!?!?)

I think that your temper is not the problem here.

You (And I) are passionate about not only Your (Our) country, but those who are trying to defeat/destroy Her.....And those who would defend them & their actions doing so.

This country wasn't founded, fought for, and built by people who were afraid to fight, defend, and if necessary give their lives for it.

Sitting by and doing Nothing is the surest way to assure Our own defeat.

So, speak up! Tell Anyone & Everyone what you think is wrong with what is happening here, and around the world.....

Only through our action can we assure Our victory!

Just as:

Only through our inaction can we assure Our defeat!

Tall Shadow

[scalerman]

Even the Russians understood the American mind and said that they would never be foolish enough to attack the US from a military stand point but that if they could get enough people to buy into their agenda and support their ideaology that those who supported their views would by their inaction support the spread of the communist agenda. We need to reach out to the Muslims in our communities and show them that we are not vermin to be eradicated from the face of the earth but people who are as passionate about our freedom as they are about their religion.

[skeet]

Personally, and I am not a nice person at times, I don't think we need to reach out to these terrorists in the muslim religion. I feel that we should make it clear to the non-terrorist muslims that we will not go quietly into the dark and hide from their dastardly and inhumane deeds. We should make it clear to the peace loving muslims that it is in THEIR and the muslim world's best interest to stop the terrorists in the muslim religious world. THEY should do it. The only way to answer the terror that is perpetrated by the muslim extremists is to irradicate the ones who do not believe in peace. The bad part of that is that the peaceful peoples in the middle will usually be the ones to suffer. BUT I do not see them out there telling the extremists they are wrong. They support them through their inaction. In Iraq and elsewhere I think the military should go into each and every mosque and search it for terrorists, ammunition, explosives or anything that would or could be considered an aid to terrorists. If anything is found, the mosque should simply be destroyed along with the clerics who are suppoting terrorism. They certainly could NOT be considered to be a peace loving cleric. Support terror....and die!! Certainly that is what the terrorists in the muslim religion are doing to anyone they disagree with. They simply kill them...usually while hiding behind a mask!!

[BILLY D.]

Originally posted by Valigator
Thats why you do not let a Muslim into power here, its not like the old days when Mohammed Ali converted...we have to take a stand...you heard about the congressman wanting to be in with the Koran right? What crap....look I am trying my best to be a docile understanding unbiased human being...but the more I read about that the more I think their idiots.....and the more I think I have the right to dtand up and say no....but I wonder, I am nasty at times I dont look at the big picture...ask Fabs...I gotta temper on me that the devil cant compete with.....sometimes ya just gotta stand up and say no...but that is really what America is not about, we are suppose to be an example for the world, quite frankly, my temper wont let me be that....but I am not so sure I am doing the right thing....oh what a dilemmna...dont feel like spell checking...

Hey Val gal

Hark back a few months ago when this conflagration started and I was all for Israel and some folks poo pood my thoughts and opinions about islam? Well since that time we have seen Lebanon go down the crapper and Iraq will soon follow and how Jordan continues to survive I haven't figured out yet. As soon as Iraq goes Kuwait will be next. One thing Saddam did do was keep Iran and Syria in check. Since he's gone they are running amuck. Credit Syria with Lebanons downfall.

The minute we pull troops out of Afghanistan that one will be over also. And the leader of Pakistan I wouldn't trust any further than than I can pick him up and throw him. Kindly remember I'm still recovering from surgery and am restricted to 20# weight limit.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, Israel is still trying to maintain it's little piece of dirt surrounded by these idiots as you so aptly call them.

Now if we could just get those dadgummed Jews to stop blowing up the Middle east all these troubles would end. NOT.

It's already to late to say NO here in the States, islum has a foothold and thanks to groups like aclu they will get stronger. And with 20 million new illegal voters the Dims will be in power to back these illegals and muslums. In the next 200 years the American face will be brown skinned and worship allah unless we extract our collective heads out of our anal orifices.

One more thing. It's 0300 and I'm tired. Being humble and docile is like consensus. Maggie Thatcher once said "consensus is the lack of leadership". Be humble and docile and your a$$ is gonna get run over by a frieght train called humble and docile.

Good night sweetheart, well it's time to go, old song from high school days. hope ya don't mind.

[Tall Shadow]

Originally posted by scalerman Even the Russians understood the American mind and said that they would never be foolish enough to attack the US from a military stand point but that if they could get enough people to buy into their agenda and support their ideaology that those who supported their views would by their inaction support the spread of the communist agenda. We need to reach out to the Muslims in our communities and show them that we are not vermin to be eradicated from the face of the earth but people who are as passionate about our freedom as they are about their religion.

OK, I don't want to sound like a broken record....And I'm not trying to single out anyone, but maybe You guys just aren't "getting it"..........

So, let me say this once more......

The Islamic Terrorists DO NOT want to TALK About It!

They don't want to hear about Jesus, or how great he is. Or any other religion, for that matter.

They Don't care about Us wanting peace, or living in harmony with their fellow man.

They can not be negotiated with, "Talked Down", or wished away.

They are not just going to "Get it" one day, and go "Oh!, sorry! we thought that what we were doing was OK with the rest of the world! But since you guys don't like all of the dieing, beheading, and explosions & stuff...We're gonna' knock it off now."

These ignorant, savages will stop at nothing less than their vision of Total World Domination.

Does that sound crazy to you? Am I being over dramatic?

It shouldn't, and I'm not. Just listen to what they are saying in any mosque, or in any of their speeches on the subject.

The world has seen this kind of stuff before....Europe in the late 1930's........And been as lazy about "Doing" anything about it before it exploded into a World War..... The time is coming around again, my friends & countrymen.......best get prepared.

Tall Shadow

[scalerman]

I agree that Islamic terrorists don't want to talk about it, of that there is no doubt. The fact is that everyday more and more Muslims are becoming disillusioned with their religion and are looking for something more. They find it hard to believe in a God that tells them to kill everyone that does not believe as they do. The Bible says that it is the devil that comes to kill, steal and destroy. It also says that we do not wrestle against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers... against spiritual wickedness in high places. Our enemy is not Muslims it is the spirit behind the religion. Thank you for allowing me to share my opinion with you. I know that all will not necessarily agree with me. IMHO

[DogYeller]

Maybe there is hope.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/NewsStory....A16_Local20348

I know Muslims will side with whoever they fear can do them the most harm. It's their religion that teaches them this.