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Old 01-20-2007, 10:50 PM
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how many yards should an average joe be able to accuratley hit a paper plate with a good rifle
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Old 01-21-2007, 04:31 AM
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There's really too many variables to answer the average joe question. From the bench? Modern, scoped rifle? Freehand? The distance will be cut down drastically depending on what the conditions are, but I'd say from the bench, modern scoped rifle, most will hit at 100 meters. But take into consideration hunting conditions, and without practice, most would be lucky to hit that 'plate' at 100 meters, Waidmannsheil, Dom.
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Old 01-21-2007, 11:13 AM
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What Dom said.

I can always hit a plate at 100 yards standing, freehand, but it will be a lousy group. At 150 yards I don't always hit it.

With my shooting sticks I can always hit a plate at 300 yards. I've never shot at a plate from a proper bench rest; if I'm on a proper bench I'm always testing something and need more precise targets.

Every rifle I shoot has a scope on it. Iron sights would, with my aged eyes that no longer focus properly, make 75 yards a tough plate shot.

I shoot somewhat less than 500 rounds of center fire amunition a year, so I'm a long way from an expert, but am I average?

Way too many variables to answer the question definitively.
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Old 01-21-2007, 03:52 PM
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It depends

What position, standing, sitting, prone or from a bench? There are so many variables it is hard to say. All he best...
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Old 01-21-2007, 10:18 PM
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no i can hit a paper plat easily with scopes at 200 paces, i am talking good old iron sights shooting while resting your gun aganist a chair or shooting sticks,but no bench
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Old 01-21-2007, 10:48 PM
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If you can't hit a 8" plate at 100 yards/meters you need some serious exercise, hit the weight bench and lots of practice.

Fact is at that range I'd say a 4" group is lousy. But it takes practice and a good gun.

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Old 01-22-2007, 12:27 AM
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Hello Catdaddy

Well, in June 1874, During a battle at Adobe Walls, Texas. Buffalo Hunter Billy Dixon took his Sharps sporting rifle and shot a Kiowa indian off of his horse at 1538 yards.

Does that answer your question?

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Old 01-22-2007, 12:32 AM
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The only arguement about that is the fact that he shot more on most days than most of us do in our best weeks... probably our best months. So i doubt you could call Dixon and "average joe".

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Old 01-22-2007, 12:54 PM
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GD`s right, Billy Dixon was far from average. From what i`ve seen here, since this is a "shotgun" state, i have met few shooters that have shot at anything past 100 yards. Of the guys that show up here every year that are going Elk hunting or at least out west, very few have shot more than 20 rounds period, with their selected rifle. Pretty much all can hit a paper plate everytime from the bench, but off a knee, or off hand, it`s a different story. Catdaddy, does accuracy mean shooting 3 out of 3 or 4 out of 5? And at what point do you say I`m ready, when you can hit 9 out of 10 at 100, or 10 out of 10? Whats everyone think? How many rounds at 100, allowing for cooling, how many do you think could be shot in a row?
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Old 01-23-2007, 07:18 PM
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My record shot on a Whitetail was between 80-90y. My average is 25y or less.

Like everyine said. If you can hit a pie tin at 100y, in a off hand position. You are good to go.
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Old 01-23-2007, 08:28 PM
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are you talking should i hit with a scoped rifle at 100 yards ,or iron sights at 100 yards
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Old 01-24-2007, 10:46 AM
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Re: shooting

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how many yards should an average joe be able to accuratley hit a paper plate with a good rifle
The exact same distance that he should attempt to shoot any legal game animal...not one inch past that.

Don't know any average "joes" but if i did assuming he was using a modern high powered rifle, decent ammo from a kneeling field position and an "average paper plate" (if there is such a thing) 150 yds.
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:56 PM
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listen i dont have a rifle with a scope, how far should i shoot with iron sights
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:06 PM
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Only as far as you can shoot accurately. Only you can know that. Only testing can tell you.

You will have to take the gun to a range and shoot it until you know how far away you can hit a target that is the size of the animal's vital area.

You're not getting a specific answer because there isn't one.
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:23 PM
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I recall reading an article in Outdoor Life when I was a kid (they had just invented paper back then...when I was born the Dead Sea was only sick ).

Anyway, some F&W service contrived to take paper plates to the field and ask hunters to volunteer to shoot at them at increasing range until they missed one shot.

I was totally shocked to find that the average was 18 yards!!!!! No I did not miss a zero. Actually they had to change their test from starting long and working in. They were surprised also. Today with a lot more experience under my belt (much at public, L.E. and Military ranges) I dont doubt that as much.

OTOH, I would be greatly shocked if the "average joe" who subscribes to this list could not multiply that range by 5 or even 10 times.

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