Renewed!

[jon lynn]

I finally renewed my German Jagdschein! I am insured and authorized for the next 3 years!!


To quote Homer: "WOO-HOO!" Sure beats the heck outta 'D'oh!'

WIADMANSHEIL-Y'ALL!

[Gunslingergirl]

From your post I would guess this is a good thing.

I'm just not sure exactly what it is you've done.

Oh well, congratulations anyway.

GSG

[Deerman]

Ditto, to what she said!!

[skeet]

Just means he got his hunters permit renewed. Ya have to have insurance etc in Germany and ya have to pass tests. I just be glad we don't have that kind of restrictions here...yet! Course ...it is Germany ya understand!

[Swift]

Good for you!

[jon lynn]

Course ...it is Germany ya understand!

Boy, is that ever a true statment. Americans had it easier before (not now), it took weeks of classes when I did it, the Germans take years. It took me four months to get a German Certification to APPLY for a license, not automaticly get one. And cost $50 just to take the class!

The Rod & Gun club provided free instructors for us, the Germans pay their instructors up to $40 an hour, and only go to class a few hours a month. My class did three hours a night every night.

You, as a part of your class, must shoot! The problem is getting somone to provide the weapons and ammo, since being non-licensed person you can't have, use, or posess either. Part of the shooting is shooting a Reh (Roe deer) sillouette at 100 meters, while using a scoped rifle....BUT you use a ploe (to simulate a tree trunk) when you shoot.

The guy who came so I could use his Remington 700 in .243 had a 8x scope (I think it was a Schmidt&Bender) and that was a wobbly picture.....but I did it first try. The Germans sent some of their guys to monitor, and failed quite a few people.

Then the next day we went to a German skeet and trap range, 100KM from my house (really), and had to bust some clays, I forgot how many, all I care is I did it. I hadn't shot trap since 10th grade, 12 years earlier.

Then after your hours of learning regulations, proper cleaning and dressing of game, and TRADITIONS, that was a huge thing (still is) just see DOM's pictures he posted for the last class graduated with his group of hunters. And PROPER DRESS ATTIRE!!!! YOU TAKE THE TEST!

After you pass the test, you go to the proper office and take your proof of insurance and qualification certificate and pay for a booklet, the actual license (Jagdschein) it's self, then the stamp approving a hunting period. Yesterday I paied 150 Euros for three years.

THEN: you either have to pay to reserve a public hunting area from the state for a region near you if your lucky. Then you get permission to shoot certian species of Roe deer, Red deer ect. They tell you what sex, and in some areas age and class of animal. I am lucky, and have an open invitation to hunt on a 3000 acre hunting area, and only pay for the meat, no trophy fees. All this is according to a Game Harvest Plan.

When you do shoot something, you pay for the meat, by the kilogram, and a trophy fee for the size and devlopment of the antlers. Then at your own cost (to and from) you have to mail the antlers to your closest Forestamt (Game wardens, kinda) so they can make a survey of devlopment in that specific area.

This is just SCRATCHING THE SURFACE. DOM who is a way bigger hunter can fill you in much better, and being Americans it would make you head spin. I got my first license in 1992, and still 'study' so I can stay up to par, in my spare time. I am sure I left a lot out, but it's enough to blow your minds.

[BILLY D.]

Congratulations Jon. I never tried to hunt over there. I left all my guns in the States when I shipped over there.

I did get a fishing permit. My wife was the ultimate fly and trout fisherwoman. I think she was born with a fly rod in her hand. She really loved the study of entomology so that made her excellent with trout. She could look 100 meters downstream and tell you what the fish were feeding on.

She even knew the German word for all insects. Of course she was fluent in German, Russian and Polish before she got there. She was a second generation German from Russia. Her Grandparents all migrated to the States.

Again, congrats and you can be justly proud of yourself.

Best wishes, Bill

[Dom]

Waidmannsheil Jon, you did a good fill in there. A huntin' you will go. I see Germany kinda this way, you can do whatever you want whenever you want, but if you get caught and don't have the goods you pay the piper, because you can bet your bottom dollar it's covered in some law somewhere!! Now, some of the laws, rules, regulations etc. are a bit extreme I must admit. I could go off on a tangent but will spare all, gotta remain laid back ya know, stress and unnecessary worrying takes years off your life and I don't need that.

Billy, I need some fishing lessons when I get back over on your side of the pond, you gotta have learned a lot from your wife, sounds like a good woman, Dom.

[jplonghunter]

jon

Congratulations on completion of hunting program. Sure hope our gov. doesn't read this post ,they might want to initiate some of the German restrictions.

jplonghunter

[PJgunner]

The way I understand it, in germany, if there isn't a law allowing it, you can't do it.
Paul B.

[gumpokc]

congrats Jon, I remember takign those classes while i wa s onactive duty.

I think it took like 3 months, 3 hours a night 3 days a week for us to get our license.

And thats the easy way that we did it as GI's.
The natural germans have it alot harder.

I must say i did enjoy learning the bugle calls though.

One question though to either Jon or Dom.
I cant remember offhand (it's been awhile) but i remember you had to do soemthing with the jawbone with the wardens.
The question is, if soemone wants/plans to make a full headmount does that figure into removing the jawbone? or do the taxidermists there have a way of dealign with it?

It's been 15 years and I simply cant remember.

[Dom]

gumpokc, the jawbones are used to age the animal, nothing more that I know of. Though I got a whole box full of them as I clean them also when I do the skulls for the European mount.

I'm not familiar if Taxidermists need a jawbone, do you know if they need them in the states? I did have a Rehbock head mounted, and did give the jawbone with the skull to the Taxidermist, but I never did ask him if he needed it or used it. I figured it couldn't hurt giving it to him, even if he threw it away because I've got dozens more, Waidmannsheil, Dom.