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Old 12-16-2007, 12:08 PM
Gil Martin Gil Martin is offline
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Cleaning up Russian Model 91/30s

I spent this snowy morning playing around with a few Model 91/30 rifles that I picked up cheap. Two are from 1943 and one has a perfect bore, the other bore is very good and may clean up over time. Then I have a 1933 Tula with a hex receiver that is very nice with a good bore. The last one is from 1960 and the bore is black and 47 years of cleaning have been a waste of time.

I really like the socket bayonet and each rifle came with one. They are probaly the last affordable military rifles around. If you think you may want one, better grab one while you can. All the best...
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Old 12-16-2007, 01:59 PM
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I have a m44 and have been kicking the idea of getting a 91/30 but have have not even shot the m44 yet and it just seems a shame to do it before i shoot the m44.
I have a lot of guns i have not shot and never intend to but i did buy this to play with and see what it would do.
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:01 PM
Adam Helmer Adam Helmer is offline
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Gil,

How does you bevy of 91/30s shoot? My experience has been that the bores run .308 to .314". Ivan was on a piece-work system and quality was not in the mix!.

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Old 12-19-2007, 07:07 PM
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You'll enjoy them alot Gil

Adam is correct, bore sizes can vary wildly from rifle to rifle.
I've heard of .307-.314, with the majority seemign to be .308-.311

I was rather surprised/disconcerted this summer when i tore mine down completely at just how much cosmoline there was buried back in the little nooks and crannies.

Still not bad rifles at all, and as reliable and tough as a steel tentpeg.
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Old 01-02-2008, 12:23 PM
DON WALKUP DON WALKUP is offline
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i have one of the doggone ole moisins with 1917 and the imperial eagle stamped on the reciever.

the bore is in wonderful condition but man...they sure feel awkward to operate.

my brother had two of the carbines that he could not get to hit a basketball sized target at 25 yds from a prone position.

they're magnificently simple and rugged as an anvil but from what i've seen of them, the trade-off was accuracy.

ivan prefers dependability, ruggedness, something the average peasant could use effeciently and quantity over accuracy.

i suppose with lots of application, one of these rifles could make a fine sporting piece but i think i'd still prefer my Mauser...
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:37 PM
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Don, did you all re-sightin the guns?

The m44 and 91/30 are factory sighted with the bayont inplace.
Thats why alot of them aren't even on th paper when people first fire them.

The m38 carbine, was never designed to use the bayonet, as such you fire it as you get it, and amazingly enough, they are considered to be the real accurate ones off the shelf.

If you take the time to completely resight those in, i bet they'll surprise you, though getting them on paper may be "fun" to start with.

If you have an m44 or 91/30 that shoots fine without the bayonet inplace, someone else already re-sighted it for you
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