Bush/Obama I am getting pissed.

[jon lynn]

This hostility is not directed toward HC, but more to where I live, and who I work with. This is the only place I can vent, and keep my job.

So those of you who have read my stuff over the years, kind of know my gray matter and how I tic, all the rest, read in to it what you want.

Okay, Obama is a huge let down. Everyone is complaining about it, both party's in fact.

But I am tired of Republicans, calling ME a Bleeding Heart Liberal or some other name when ever I say something they don't like. I am going to start sluing people in their big damned mouths!

My attitude is going from, just look at facts, block out the rhetoric from the donkeys and elephants,and find a grain of truth, to F-U! Ive had it. Enough!

So I say, yes Obama sucks, huge empty bag of do nothing.

Now tell me what the Bush era did? I see eight years of nothingness too.

I was only in Desert Storm, but I tried to re-up to go to the next fight (failed physical), so I can say this with a clear conscious about the second invasion: WHERE ARE THE WMD?

[Mr. 16 gauge]

Don't let it get to you.....it's just politics, and it's not worth the hypertension and a stroke.

I listened to Obama's speech today re: change in immigration policy. He talked about the great things immigrants have brought to this country.....can't disagree with that, but what he has FAILED to address is that no one is against LEGAL immigration; it's the illegal ones that are the danger (esp. since they now may have terrorist ties).

I don't think any politician gets it anymore.....the idea of serving in political office was suppose to be an honor and duty, not a means of lining your pocket or 'making your party look good".

I have voted for the Libertarian in the last several elections, simply because I feel that they are one of the few parties that are in touch with the real will of the people, for the most part. I have been told that "I wasted my vote" because they had NO chance of winning.....I didn't know that this was just a high school election! I thought we were suppose to elect the best person for the job! Maybe if more people would bother to study what the candidates have to say, or better yet, press them as to HOW they intend to change things, we might get a better system of government.

But until that happens, I don't think things will get better; I do not remember America ever being this polarized between the two major parties.

....and to those who told me I 'wasted' my vote: My reply was plain and simple.....The only vote that is 'wasted' is the one that is not cast!

[GoodOlBoy]

Keep in mind that 8 years of nothingness was better than 1 year of going downhill at somewhere past the speed of sound. . . . . thats my 2 cents.

GoodOlBoy

[jon lynn]

Keep in mind that 8 years of nothingness was better than 1 year of going downhill at somewhere past the speed of sound. . . . . thats my 2 cents.

And I totally respect that. Because you did not hang a label on me or call me a name because of my personal view.

What is the reason for my rant?

I am truly disappointed about the time/place/reason for the Iraq invasion. This really put a huge dent in the priority of the Afghan Invasion, which I was 100% for from the start!

But I was poking the stick at Fox News, (not Bush nor the Republican party), and only quoted what was said, whole quotes, not chopped. I even put some stuff about CNN and Courik (who I only watched once).

Then I get 50 replies calling me a liberal (I don't even know what that really is any more), ass****e, and what really pissed me off, 'UN-AMERICAN' And was told I was spewing rhetoric. Even if it was a simple statement of fact.

Now, to wrap up, just so you know, Because I have mentioned this many times before: I HATE, AND DO NOT TRUST EITHER PARTY!

Hillary scares the ever loving crap out of me. And I am very worried that she will make it to the Oval Office one day. I would much rather have Bush again, than her at all!

[Larryjk]

jon lynn, You assked where are the WMD? I think they went to Seria. It is a fact that weapons using poisonous gas were used against the Kurds and killed about 7500 in one attack. That is a WMD and "Chemical Alli" was hanged for that war crime. As for whatever else Saddam had, we will probably never know. Did he not have them or did he pass them on to Seria (sp)? Remember the weapon inspector said when asked about the WMDs they were searching for, " We didn't find any" rather than saying there weren't any.

[GoodOlBoy]

jon lynn its a free country. You made a bad choice, alot of people did. I have little problem with you politcally if any at all. Why? Because I work with ALOT of people who voted for That illegal alien in the white house and will defend him forever despite the damage he has done. The only thing they can do is start spouting all the stuff they didn't like about Bush. Whether you liked Bush or hated him has nothing to do with the pure fact that Oblama will go down as the absolute worst president in history. He has done more damage to this country than both Bushes and Clinton combined. . . .

Did I like the war in Iraq? No. Was it nessisary? Probably. I like less being told that if I don't have health insurance I can go to jail. Whats next? You own a gm car or go to prison? Buy a iphone? Where does it stop?

We need less guvmint plain and simple.

GoodOlBoy

[skeet]

You know JL..GOB is right.. I have very little use for either party anymore either. But I do know the people we have running this country are not Democrats or Republicans..they are Marxists. The definition of Marxist is Communist...just in case you don't know. We have had a great country for a couple hundred years mainly beacause people were self reliant..and were responsible for their actions. That is no longer the case Blame everything on Bush?? My friend you only see the things that happened because of policies that were promulgated by the people in our legislature. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac..Ordered to guarantee unsafe loans by People Like Barney Frank?? Was Bush a great lead3er?? I don't really think so..but no matter what you say or do..these people running the country now..are sure a whole lot worse..and it gonna be worse in the future..And they are stacking the deck in the Supreme Court so they can CHANGE the Constitution to suit them.. Good luck to you my friend.. These people are going to make everything...better...for them..at yours and my expense. I'm just sorry that the people who supported this guy and his henchmen..couldn't see that this is what was going to happen..I did..and will say right now... YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!! Unless we can derail 'em in November. If ya voted for him...have ya had enough yet??

Oh...and don't forget TERM LIMITS...2 TERMS

[jon lynn]

My 'views' are not the issue of my topic.

Verbal assaults is my issue.

Don't call me UN American. (Not you, the person who said it to me).

I don't call others names because I don't support their politics. When I told a family member ,(by marriage), I was going Democrat this time, he said "Your a %^$#@*& idiot then!"

Had he not been married to a sister I care very much for, he would have been put in a hospital bed I promise you. But the extent of my verbal roughness is: "I think your wrong." That's it, what more is their?

If any of us knew truly who would make a good president, we would be in a better place now.

Like me, don't like me, it is a way of life. Call me names listed above, count your blessings.

[skeet]

Actually the view part is what caused the verbal assault. People are very verbal about their politics and religions JL. You know that.. When we say to someone something that opposes their point of view and we are very passionate about it..that is what you get..Politically correct I'm not..Just to the right of ol Attilla the HUN.. but if you say to me I'm going to vote for Obama..Or Hillary or Ol Al Gore..and I am passionately opposed to them... I will ask you why. I won't call you an %*($#&^$#^%$@#*^&&until I here your reasons..and if they aren't well thought out..I may just point that out to you.. Personally I feel that anyone who voted for any of the idiots we have running the country today..surely didn't look at the root causes of all the troubles this country has.. I personally thought the Iraq thing was called for..The Afghanistan part of it..not really. Heck the English couldn't fix it..the Russians couldn't so why do we think we have to. Being right there next to ol Attilla I feel we know who supports the terrorists in the world..Those are the ones who should be gone..as in GONE! Wether it be a guy on the street in Kabul or the king of an Arab country..If they support terrorism.. Gone..and we can do that. If we really let 'em know..REALLY..the problem will resolve itself..No it ain't easy..it won't be easy..But if you let the terrorists KNOW that if they persist..you will seriously kill them, their families and their friends..they will think twice. Wouldn't you? They have no consideration for the people they kill..but when the birds come home to roost!!?? What then? No that does not make us nice guys..Nice guys sometimes do finish last

Now a really good question..Do you think you did good helping to get the powers that be elected?? Do you feel like that ((*^%^$(^%(**(Idiot your BIL called you?? I've felt like an idiot too many times to not say it hasn't happened to me..And if we live long 'nuff..It'll happen again. Hopefully not on such a large scale though. What we have now is changing our country and pushing us all in a direction I surely don't want to go.

[jon lynn]

Skeet,

I truly did not think that John McCain would have done better, at the time. I truly thought Obama's economic education would be a plus. I really did not realize he had the Clinton view of "Let's go European."

But if you would have asked me if Obama would have bailed out millionaires from the banks, before the fact, I would have said no. I would not have expected any person to do so.

I do agree with the American car bailout though. The thought of Ford and Chevrolet going under really put a bad taste in my mouth. But only one hit, and so many misses, he's out of my line up.

But I did drop the ball on the border issue. I say we pull a Pink Floyd and build a wall. I really did not think he would weenie out on the now non existent border.

And no matter who was in, is in, or will be in the Oval Office, needs to tell El Presedente of Meh-he-co where to put that jalapeno!

I wish the Congress and Senate had term limits too. A Representative who has been in the Congress or Senate forever is worthless. I have NEVER ever heard about anything Ted Kennedy had ever done, except live off the image of two dead brothers.

[skeet]

JL..I didn't have any use for McCain eithr.. But with the way things were going in Congress he was a counterpoint to them. He could veto bad bills. Even if the Congress had passed the health care thing the way they did he would have vetoed it..just to make 'em go back and consider the bill. The last 2 years of Bush 2 the Democraps controlled Congress..They passed the stupid legislation..and we had Republicans trying to get along with the other side voting for some of the stupid things.

As far as the border thing. We really do need to round up the illegals..send 'em home and tell 'em to do it legally and pay taxes and keep the money here. The 2nd largest influx of cash in the Mexican system is money from people working illegally here and sending the money back to where they came from..I personally would limit that..50 bucks a month is surely enough..If they want to come here and stay..No money to where they came from.. But most of 'em come here to just work..and if they get caught they go home and come back again later..A database of them is necessary. If caught more than once..short jail and deport..next time something more important..they after all want the money..

As far as Nobama going European...not even close..going communist is more like it..Europe is Socialist..and they are even finding out that it don't work..

The car bailout..was a wrong message to the auto makers. It said to them that the country can't do without them. They survived the 30's depression..They would survive this one. It was especially wrong for a president of this country to fire people working in the auto industry.. Something not many know..GM sold off the Hummer Division..to the Communist Chinese.. Who's gonna make our military Hummers?? The Com Chinks are not our friends.

And you are correct..the Mexican el Presidente can stay in Mexico..while we send all his illegals back..He helped encourage them to come here. He is PART of the problem. And our president should stay out of state politics. He's wrong and the Aridzona bill is their business.

Hey I voted for Tricky Dicky But even if he was a crook..he wasn't an America hating Communist like Nobama. Oh and if ya think I didn't vote for Nobama cause he's black or an illegal(which I feel is the truth) I would have and enjoyed voting for Condoleeza Rice..Black and a woman..Oh my!! She does seem to like this country..contrary to our esteemed Speaker of the House Pelosi..who thinks unemployment benefits are a stimulus to the economy.. another communist..

[jon lynn]

.contrary to our esteemed Speaker of the House Pelosi..who thinks unemployment benefits are a stimulus to the economy.. another communist..

Agree 100%

[Jack]

Jon, the nature of the internet lends itself to name calling, unfortunately. Unlike face to face, a person is unlikely to get punched in the mouth for name calling on the 'net.
Most people, too, have their position/preference/prejudice- whatever you choose to call it, and aren't interested in really listening to anyone else's.
Most internet political 'discussions' generate far more heat than light, and persuade no one.

[Joe Boleo]

I hear you and would say that since you own several firearms that you are not a bleeding heart liberal or any of that negative stuff. We have two major political parties in this country today and both spend way too much money that we do not have. The only difference that I see between the major political parties is what they overspend money on. I became a Libertarian and could support Independents, Constitutional or Tea Party candidates. Problem is the major parties control the campaign money and other good parties are having a tough time getting the millions to campaign. Take care...
Joe

[popplecop]

I hate to say this, it's an old saying but in the last election I voted for what I thought was the lesser of 2 evils. I voted for McCain but was not that impressed with him politically, am proud of his military service though.