Say it ain't so Ted

[buckhunter]

Rocker and celebrity hunter Ted Nugent will have to pay a $1,750 fine after pleading no contest in California to baiting a deer and not having a properly signed hunting tag.

California Department of Fish and Game spokesman Patrick Foy says game wardens saw Nugent kill an immature buck on a February episode of his Outdoor Channel TV show "Spirit of the Wild."

Investigators found that the deer had been eating bait called "C'mere Deer." Baiting wildlife is illegal in California.

Nugent originally faced 11 charges, including killing a deer too young to be hunted. In a deal with Yuba County prosecutors, Nugent's attorney on Friday entered no contest pleas to the two misdemeanors.

Nugent did not appear in court. A spokeswoman for the musician did not immediately return messages late Tuesday.

[multibeard]

The LAST time I watched his show and that was years ago I am ure he was shooting baited turkeys.

Day one set up a half dozen long beards come charging in in front of his blind, skid to a hault and start peckinng some thing off the ground rightin the perfect position for teddo to wack and stack one.

Next segment,DAY, totally same senerio as day one comple with his macho wackam stackam speach.

AS I said in the start of this post it was the LAST time I ever watched his phony show.

[skeet]

Ya know..I was out in Montana a few years ago lookin for a place to move to. Real estate guy took me out to a small ranch..drivin around an here came the turkeys. He said look at that.. Those turkeys must be crazy.. Heck I know about baited critters..an those things were a good addition to his stacked deck..Needless to say..I didn't buy the place..and it was just about the place I had in mind..Just didn't like that kind of salesmanship.. Come to think of it..I have dealt with about 6 real estate agents who were lets say..a bit underhanded. The one who sold my farm in Md and the one who bought it were in cahoots.. I guess ol Teddy was too smart to see the game wardens figuring out his scam too. Kinda hate those hunting shows and videos. Just too apparent that somethin is..just not right. Heck I knew a guide back east who had the geese so conditioned they came to the field as soon as they heard him slam the tailgate on his truck. By the time the game wardens got there in the morning..the bait was GONE

[Rapier]

Come on guys, you mean that you never thought something was amiss in these filmed shows?

Do you remember the old American Sportsman series, the grandaddy of them all? Well, when they came to NH to film a deer hunt, the F&G Dept folks themselves took them to an island (island hunting is illegal) put them in a stand, hearded the deer to them, through fenced funnels, and the movie was made. That came direct from the F&G guys that were ordered to do the deed. They were ordered to do so by higher political authority, trying to make the state look like it was over-run by Bambi's daddy. Oh, they also used full mounted critters in segments according to the F&G guys.

This has been the SOP for years, actually decades. Those film crews go to the field with a PU load of equipment plus other folks, how else do you think a critter would get within a hundred miles of them? Watch close and you will still see a mounted deer now and then peeking around a tree in filmed segments of shows.

Today the only shows I watch are the shows about wing shooting in places I know have so many critters that a whole film crew could setup and it would not matter at all, like Argentina.

You just have no idea about RE folks. You need to live in FL, the world capitol of honest RE dealings. The only profession rated lower than a used car salesman in reputation within the state!
Ed

[popplecop]

I guess I gave up on the hunting shows years ago, too many were done on fenced deer farms, elk included. If I hear of one that is upland bird hunting by which I mean grouse and woodcock I'll watch them. Even some of the S.D. pheasant films are made useing supplemental pen birds. Also don't give hoot for tounament fishing shows.

[Dan Morris]

LOL, up where kid and myself usta hunt, we watched camp scenes being filmed by an entire film crew. They picked up and did actual kills over by Hayden, Co at a game farm......haven't watched one of these programs in years! Pack string n hunters looked great heading outta camp and toward the peaks....then reality.....
Dan

[buckhunter]

One thing you must remember about television. Its all about the ratings. If Hank Parker never shot a deer all season like some of us then his video's would never make it into production. There is a staging in these shows and nobody will ever convience me anything different.

[MtnMike2]

I am very disappointed / disillusioned with 'Uncle Ted'. I still watch hunting shows sometimes, but I've always been suspicious. It has always seemed a heck of lot easier for the guys on those shows to take a deer than it is for me... I attributed much of that to hunting private ranches, during the rut, with guides taking 'em right to the animals.
This is also bad as the antis will use this to 'prove' that hunters are unethical.

Mike

[wrenchman]

i kind of like watching his shows and almost every thing he kills is behind a fence on his shows.
He makes no bone about killing a small deer and in my mind there is nothing wrong with it in the real world most of us only hunt about 2 weeks out of the year and if you want to shoot a small buck and it is legal i say go for it.
Here in mich i have gone the hole seasen with out seeing a buck on state land and shot a doe with my bow second week of dec this was before kids a wife or a house when i could spend lots of time in the woods.
I worked 4 days a week and hunted 3 days it was great and most of it done frome a tent

[buckhunter]

On the other side of the fence.

Last night I watched a Nature show on PBS about the American Eagle. I was interesing until they got to spot when they showed an eagle eating away at a winter kill deer. They spent several minutes berating hunters for shooting and leaving an animal in the woods and have an eagle eat it an develope lead poisioning from the bullet fragments. They implied that all hunter shoot and leave animals in the woods. Plus the bullet thing was something that could only be believed in California or Massachusetts.

[PJgunner]

There's a bit more to this than what was said here. Yes, Ted did kill an "underage deer. Maybe not. In California, does and spikes are sacred cows. The deer he killed could have been much older, yet only be a spike. Ted's mistake was not being properly informed on California's rediculous law on spke which are genetically defective deer that may never even grow one fork on an antler. This was the law when I did my first deer hunt one labor Day 1949 and is still the law today.
Ted did not bait the deer, the persons guiding him did that. I don't remember all the details but you can get them over on 24 hour campfire in the Ted Nugent poacher thread.
Yes Ted had to pay a fine but he manned up, paid it and admitted he was in the wrong. IIRC, he pled no contest.Califfornia has some of he mose screwed up hunt reg thanks to all license money going to the general fund and the head people in Fish & Game being political hacks controlled by the ecoweenies. The population of California's deer herd is so screwed up that unless an awful lot of spikes and does are not emoved, deer hunting will only get worse.
Paul B.