Is it possible.....

fishnfrank · #1 12-25-2010, 02:17 PM

I have an FR8 308 and was wanting to build a suppressor ( legally with paperwork of course) and install it. I would only do it if I didn't have to modify the rifle. It has a flash suppressor on it and locking rings behind that. I have never done anything like this but I would like to try. Does anyone know if this is possible without modding the gun? Thanks and Merry Christmas!!

skeet · #2 12-25-2010, 10:59 PM

FnF..Not trying to bust your bubble. You can't really suppress a 308. It is hypersonic and you will always have a crack of the bullet. I have had a suppressed firearm or two in the past and you can really make subsonic rounds pretty quiet but the bigger rounds that are truly useful are next to impossible to make quiet. A neat round that can be suppresses is the 300 Whisper./ ..221 Fireball case with a 200 gr 30 cal bullet ..About 1100 ft Per Sec..At a 100 yds it's still doing around a 1000 FPS

Adam Helmer · #3 12-26-2010, 08:14 PM

fishnfrank,

May I ask; Why do you need a suppressed .308? If you worked at my former agency, we would just "do the do." Skeet has it right, the "sonic boom" of a .308 will alert the other goons besides the one you "popped."

Suppressed guns can sound like a "Singer sewing machine" when it is an H&K MP-5 9mm with subsonic ammo. The M14s and other stuff always sounded like guns, even to the goons. What "Ninja Movies" are you watching? LOL.

Adam

skeet · #4 12-27-2010, 12:30 AM

The suppressed CG1940 I carried wasn't really quiet when you shot it..but 30 ft away it sounded something like Adam said. In your hands you actually heard the bolt slap as much as anything. And when the suppressor got clogged it got louder,. But that was 40 yr old technology or older. Still neat to shoot. The neatest sounding hand held full auto was the BAR and of course a Thompson. The BAR was the cat's meow though. Not a gun that was fun to carry..nor was a Thompson. I saw a few of both in VN. Not issued though I don't think.

fishnfrank · #5 12-29-2010, 11:41 AM

I really don't have the "need for it" I just wanted to try it. I am in the military and have been traveling a lot for the past 10 years and never had the time. i am now in a position with a lot more time on my hands and want to start reloading and trying different things. Suppressed weapons have always interested me and I thought this would be a cool gun to try it on since I already own it.

Larryjk · #6 12-29-2010, 12:59 PM

I have had opportunities to shoot a suppressed Ruger 10/22 that was used for animal control by a local city. Very quiet; only a little noise from the bolt slamming shut. Also had an opportunity to shoot a suppressed 9mm smg owned by the local sheriffs office.
Again very quiet except for the blot slamming. Fun but not very practical; considering the hassel of legal ownership.

PJgunner · #7 01-09-2011, 05:32 PM

My experience with a suppressed firearn is very thin. Exactly one time. The rifle, the military M4 with suppressor and scope. It was at my range where a bunch of Army Rangers were doing sight ins and pratice with the M4's. Some were suppressed and some were not. They very kindly let me shoot both types and it was a great experience. The scopes were sighted in at 100 meters and had "hash marks" to 500 meters. There were also windage hash marks as well. In two shots I was ringing a 500 meter gong regularly with no misses from prone position. Way cool. Then I was allowed to try a surpressed gun. No, it didn't sound much like Hollyweird's idea of a "silenced" weapon. The sound was noticable but not really loud. I commented on this and because of the quieted down muzzle blast, and it was substantial, the sonic crack of the bullet was considered more likely to confuse the enemy as to where the shot actually came from.As they werejust abutthrough with their shooting, I was also allowed some full auto time.

What a thrill it was to get to play with toys my government won't allow me to have.
Paul B.

GoodOlBoy · #8 01-11-2011, 10:35 AM

Basically you can suppress just about any kind of weapon out there, but how much the suppression works is based on bullet speed, and gun design (supressing a revolver is just stupid for example though it has been done). As everybody has said in a 308 unless you use subsonic ammo you are still going to get a very sharp crack out of it. With a 22 it depends on the ammo. Subsonic ammo is very quiet, standard high velocity still has a crack to it. 45acp is always popular to suppress because by its very nature it is a subsonic round. If you are looking to legally do this anyway (which I would always advise) I would actually contact one of the better suppression makers such as Knights Armament out of florida, they can not only give you an idea of what it is you are looking at but can also give you an idea of what different decible suppression rating are available for your particular firearm. I would NOT under ANY circumstance "do it yourself" on a suppressor. It is FAR too easy for some trigger happy DA trying to make a name for himself/herself to bury you in red tape, prosecution, or even jail even if you are trying to "do it right"

Myself I don't own a single suppressor and don't plan to own one. The red tape, the taxes, and the rights you give up in order to own and posses one at this time just don't make it worth it to me.

me 2 cents.

GoodOlBoy