Anybody heard from Mr. 16 gauge?

[Adam Helmer]

I look into these posts everyday and noticed we have not heard recently from Mr. 16 gauge. Does anyone have any input about his whereabouts or condition?

Adam

[powell&hyde]

From reading his last post I think he might have quit Hunt Chat, here is his last thread http://www.huntchat.com/showthread.php?t=50258

[Adam Helmer]

powell&hyde,

Thank you for the Archieved update; that was last December. I feel it is a loss to not have Mr. 16 gauge on board.

Adam

[popplecop]

I agree whole heartily with you Adam, a big loss. Really too bad.

[wrenchman]

I am sorry to see him gone if its true

[multibeard]

I saw a thread started by him on Michigan-Sportsman this morning.

I did not see the thread that P&H posted so did not know he had a problem with things till now.

[GoodOlBoy]

Actually I disagree about it being a big loss. Don't get me wrong I like Mr 16 Gauge, BUT if any member cannot have a civil discussion with another member or moderator and can't just agree to disagree then there is IMHO no place for them on a family board with alot of good people on it.

He effectively got bent out of shape because he shoots a traditional blackpowder rifle and a moderator suggested that an inline was an improvement over a traditional rifle (which it is) Instead of pointing out that traditional rifles still have a place in the world, or pointing out that traditional rifles are still fine hunting weapons (which they are) He threw what equates to a three year old's tantrum, took his ball, and went home.

Would I like to have him back? If he can mature a bit then yes, he always had some very interesting views and I enjoyed our conversations, but I was stunned at the way he stomped off.

My 2 Cents.

GoodOlBoy

[muledeer]

Well said!! I totally agree. You said what I was thinking when I read the post back in December. Skeet sure can stir the pot Just kidding, Skeet.
muledeer

[wrenchman]

I do have to say it is real easy to have the written word misunderstood i have started arguments and it was not what i intednded here.
Becouse my spelling is not good at its best i tend to make short cuts.

[GoodOlBoy]

while I do agree it is easy to misunderstand tone in written communication rereading his post from back when again this morning there isn't much to misinturpret there.

GoodOlBoy

[powell&hyde]

I agree with you GOB.

[popplecop]

Well Good ol Boy, I can take the arguement even further then, the centerfire rifle bade both obsolete. I'm a traditional muzzleloader, that's my choice and have a little experence with them, little over 50 yrs. If the traditionals were outlawed I'd quit ml hunting. There are different philophicies and to each his own, but some of have enough knowledge and history of front stuffers that we don't need more advice. Please note my favorite mlers are flinters. Also this site was a separate posting for muzzle loaders of each type. Really too bad we can't have one for Single Shot Rifles.

[skeeter@ccia.com]

Here in Pa, you were able to use flintlock in regular rifle season if you wanted. They do still have flintlock only seasons throughout the state but it overlaps with special regulation areas such as Allegheny Co. or the 2B zone. You not need wear orange if after Christmas season however you need to be aware of where you are because you will have rifle hunting in 2B along with you. So we wear the orange to be safe. It boils down to all the seasons we do have and I think they do a pretty good job of giving us a lot of hunting in Pa. You can even carry your bow in regular rifle season if that is the tool of choice... I run into people using rifle, others flintlock others inline others bow all in the same area, same day..so everyone gets to have a good time. I do however have a hard time with those that think I should not do something just because they prefer not to...such as drinking or smoking or even when they pass a patition to close a bar or something..I am more afraid of those people than those that mind their own buss..if you don't want to partake, dont..but don't tell me I can't.....if that is what you want to do, no skin off my back. Would be a strange world if everyone thought the same or did the same or looked the same...and having been in charge of organizations with lots of people, it is hard to please everyone all the time..without a little rain now and then, we would never appreciate the sunshine.

[popplecop]

Years ago when Wis. was looking at having ML season I contacted the Chief Game Protector as they were known then why flinters only. His reply was if they allowed cap locks too they would have 50,000 Ohio muzzle stuffers hunting in Penn. By only allowing flinters only had a few thousand Ohio hunters.

[Adam Helmer]

popplecop,

I have heard the argument "that since I load my Inline from the front end, it is a Muzzleloader JUST LIKE a flintlock." LOL! I own flinters, caplocks and two inlines that use 209 shotgun primers. I will agree, ALL my muzzleloaders load from the front end, but that is where the similarity ends!

If anyone thinks a bolt action inline using 209 primers is THE SAME as using a .50 caliber Hawken Flintlock in the RAIN, I would say they NEVER used a flinter in the rain. My 209 inlines ALWAYS fire in the rain, not so the flinters. The DIFFERENCE is the Ignition System. There is a big difference. That is why the soldiers in the Civil War used caplocks and none went back to Flintlocks. The DIFFERENCE IS IN THE IGNITION System! If there were no differences, Everyone would use Flintlocks, Right?

Adam