Testing various .22 ammo in Rugers.

[Adam Helmer]

Yesterday, I tested three different brands of .22 Long Rifle hollowpoint ammo in my Ruger Mark I and Ruger Mark II. I had a brick of Remington, Federals and Winchester ammo. The targets were 25 yards from the bench. It was an interesting afternoon.

The pistols are used a lot in my handgun instruction classes. The Mark I is a heavy barrel with adjustable sights while the Mark II has a light barrel and fixed sights. The Federals shot so-so, the Remingtons were better, but the Winchesters shot best in my guns, your results may vary. I adjusted the windage on the Mark II to zero it for Winchesters. That will be my woods carry gun here on the farm.

Adam

[buckhunter]

In my 10-22 the Winchester's won hands down. Usually use 40 gr Power Points. On a good day they will group in a dime at 25 yards. That what I hunt with however when plinking I use everything else,

[Adam Helmer]

buckhunter,

I agree, the Winchester Hollow Points that come in a 555-round box win in my Ruger pistols and my OLD Marlin 39A .22 lever action.

The Federal bricks on establishment will be shot off during orientation classes for new shooters in my CCW classes.

Adam

[buckhunter]

I have a old HiStandard I believe Model 109 Military that will not anything except CCI Standard Velocty worth a darn. It will drive tacks with the CCI then again thats what it was made for.

[GoodOlBoy]

Adam I am curious as to which Remmys you were using. I have found that the remington golden bullets shoot best in almost anything I own. Curiously these are midrange shells, not high end ones.

GoodOlBoy

[Adam Helmer]

GOB,

The Remingtons were the Walmart offering of 500 rounds in a box for about $20, as I recall. They shoot well, but just not as well as the Winchester hollow points.

Adam

[Dom]

Nice to get out and do some shooting Adam, sounds like you are having too much fun

Just a quick question if you know, I have a Mark I, standard, with tapered barrel. Front sight is like a barrel band with a straight blade. Looks like I just pop the pin and the blade is off, or does the entire band come off also. Been looking for some night glow sights for it and not having much luck, most hi viz sights I see are for Mark II or bull barrels. May have to cobble something up. Eyes are getting old, and shooting competition indoors, with black sights, at black target, with no light or contrast is near impossible for me!

[Adam Helmer]

Dom,

Es ist nicht moghlich!!! Du bist ZEHR Alt! Wie geht es Ihnen, mein Freund?

Good to hear from you again. My Mark I is in the top shelf of vault #2 and I cannot grab it easily to comment. Perhaps Ruger will be a lot more helpful than I ever wished to be. Also, Ruger may have modified the Mark I front sight over time. As I recall, mine is dovetailed into the barrel at the muzle end.

Be well und, Macht viel Spass!

Adam

[270man]

Adam & others,

I have extensively tested just about anything I can buy in my bolt and SA auto rifles. My Ruger SA handguns have also been run through ammo test cycles. However, most of the handguns have open sights and it has been hard to pin down just what ammo brands and types are "best". Here are some of my general findings:

1) Numerous brands/types (both HV and Std Vel) give adequate accuracy in my handguns. If pressed for one, I would choose Winchester Super-X HV.

2) Win Super-X types (solid bullet, HP, Power Point, DynaPoint, etc.) all work well in my rifles. Remington's HV Golden Bullets don't measure up in any of my rifles -- for accuracy or reliability.

3) For sillhouette rifle competition, Federal 711B (1080fps) is the choice for my Remington 541S -- but Winchester T-22 works pretty well too. Higher priced stuff is just a bit more accurate but not enough to justify the cost.

4) With so many different loads giving good accuracy, I next look to reliability. Several years ago, my fellow handgun competitors and I were getting anywhere from 5-10 misfires with a box of 50 Remingtons -- and I haven't bought any since.

As the ads always say, your results may vary. I have concluded that no one brand/type is the best for everyone's firearms. In addition, I have had good luck with a particular lot only to find that a new lot of the same stuff doesn't work as well. We just have to keep testing for best results.

270man

[Dom]

Ja Adam, Ich sage lieber Alter und nicht sehr Alt Mir geht es gut, wie immer, nichts neues!

Not a problem on the Mark I sights, I'll ask Ruger. Someday I'll stumble upon what I'm looking for just figured I'd ask as you have a wealth of knowledge.

Alles gute and hope you's all here on Huntchat have a nice Memorial Day.

[popplecop]

I too have had problems with the Remington Golden Bullets in recent years. Lot of misfires in variouis rifles and handguns. I used to always have them on hand as they performed well in my various 22 rfs. Now for bulk .22 rfs have been useing Federals for plinking

[Rapier]

You know guys, testing 22 LR ammo at 25 yards is a waste of time. Virtually anything will shoot in any gun at 25 yards. Forget accuracy testing a gun without at least a scope and sand bags. Even as crappy as Remington ammo is, it will also shoot at 25 yards.

Dom, the early Ruger Standard Auto front sight is held in place by a small pin, later changed to a screwed on arrangement. You have an early gun.

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Ed

[popplecop]

Only if it fires everytime one pulls the trigger. Will try some Golden Bullets again, hopefully they are more reliable, used to be my favorite .22 rf.

[Rapier]

Yep, ifin it not go bang, it ain't worth much.
Ed

[GoodOlBoy]

Keep in mind that rate of twist and dept of rifling had changed from vendor to vendor and decade to decade.

I have a old winchester model 67 single shot (LR/L/S) that doesn't like ANY current made easy to find shells. The best it shoots are CCI CB short or CB long. Aguila Super Extra Subsonic, and Remmy Subsonic shoot OK in it.

My Marlin Model 60 and my Ruger 10/22 both seem to prefer the Remington Golden Bullet HP http://www.remington.com/products/am...en-bullet.aspx

CCI Stingers worked well in a buddies browning buckmark. As did the Winchester Red Label HV stuff. Bother were ok in my Ruger 10/22 but nothing to write home about.

CCI Stingers worked moderately in another buddies Ruger Mark II pistol, but The CCI Velocitors worked wonders in it. As did the Aguila SSS 60 grain subsonics. The velocitors work decent in my old marlin model 60 so long as I am satisfied with consistently 50 cent sized groups.

Remington Yellowjackets shot minute of squirrel and minute of bunny in my Marlin Model 60, but my Ruger 10/22 hates them, which is weird because dad's 10/22 shoots them pretty well.

Federal Lightning (old box pre-champion style label) shot VERY well in my marlin model 60. However the new box (champion style label) doesn't shoot great in it, AND it is much dirtier than it used to be.

Remington Cyclone has shot decently in my ruger 10/22, a buddy's remington viper, and in another buddies browning buckmark.

Winchester Super Speed RN & HP and Hyper Speed HP shot OK in my Ruger 10/22.

I will look through some of my other various 22 shells at home I know I have some older and oddballer ammo in there as well. We don't have alot of winchester 22 shells for sale down here.

GoodOlBoy